What do you think of the debate on Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton? What's your pros and cons on both?

by Silenci030310 on September 27th, 2016
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Silenci030310: I don't trust both of them.

I don't trust both of them. What's your honest opinions I'm curious to know what everyone thinks.

Snowmanno: You nailed it!!

Its is such a shame that we are told we are free and can choose our leader (president) as long as I can remember we have never been given a choice or we there was one that would have been worthy, such as Ross Perot in my opinion, it never happens. I can sum up this election very easily.

People voting for Hillary Clinton:
Scared of Trumps ability to run the country
They are doing it for lack of options, who in their right mind would vote for someone with so many secrets?
People are comfortable that she has been close toObama so she might now a little more of what's going on than Trump.

People for voting for Donald Trump :
These are the people that are our average Joes and are sick and tired of the lies our Government tells us everyday.
These people want our old United States Back the one that was for the people and by the people.
All the know is the last 8 years plus have been a mess and they are willing to take a chance on a new path.

That's my opinion in a brief, and I honestly am scared where our country will go when either of them get into office. My best advice is to go back into your history books read the declaration, and constitution, and the stories about how and why they were written and then choose your next president. A lot of us forgot how and why we are here.

Peace Out
Snow

bluesbaby5050: What do we think?

All history books have been Re- written in the past 20 years. Our constitution is null & void. It has been this way since the last century. The united States have not been united for some time. It is now known as a cooperation and it is divided into sectors. Wall street is in charge with it's warlocks and the game of numbers and black magic, and rituals. The US never won any wars. All wars are Pr- planned by the heads of countries involved for profits, and for the culling of the herds, and war makes huge amounts of money and energy for the Archon feeders. I could go on and on. We all are living in a reality of illusion called the matrix. Humans do not control this world.

Quinton: I just think it's so sad and

I just think it's so sad and elementary that we have to whittle down all our individual preferences into either Trump or Clinton, as if they are able to better represent us than ourselves. It's so strange to me that we have to find a person to carry out what we want in the world rather than ourselves.

With that said, I think they both did okay in the debate.

bluesbaby5050: What do I think?

They are cousins by bloodline. That says a lot. Also they do not have the interest of the people at heart, and never have. A couple of years ago I posted Trump with George Soros posing with the Nazi flag together in this forum . They both got caught in a huge money scam. It went into length explaining the details. Look it up on this site. They only have their own interests at heart. Hillary has shown herself by her long track record. She has a lot of blood on her hands along with her husband Bill Clinton, and Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. Why can't the people in the USA make the connections and remember the history of these people that are leading the USA down the road to hell with Obuma?

LettersToCleo: My thoughts on Trump

He says he is going to change things, but his tax breaks favor the wealthy.

Which means not much is going to change.

As well reports come out he didnt pay taxes for 18 years cuz of loop holes. So with his tax breaks and loop holes which he wont close. His plan basically is to give corporations and wealthy individuals more tax breaks and have the working class work longer hours to pay for his infrastructure programs. He basically says paying no tax is smart.

Trump is all talk. not that hillary is any better, but trump is talk one game while he plays another.

bluesbaby5050: My thoughts on Trump....

Trump just likes to blow his own horn, he is full of hot air. Both parties are the same. All players are the same with the same results, and they are just parts of the illusion to bring in their New world Dis order. They are the super rich criminals that are the puppets, pawns being used by their masters following their master's orders. People are fools to vote for any of them. They will gain while others will continue to lose.

LettersToCleo: i dont bother voting

i try to pull out of the system as much as i can because its doomed and corrupt in the matrix.

trump is a hypocrite is all, he criticize hedge funds and other groups for not paying enough tax and putting the burden on the middle class, and the truth comes out he was worse paying no tax on his personal income tax for likely 2 decades cuz he wanted to. it wasnt corporate income tax, it was his personal income tax he claimed the 915 million dollar write off on. and he is the guy coming out saying ok i will fix it trust me.

bluesbaby5050: What do we think?

I've done the same thing. It's not an easy way to live, but once we choose this path we know how to operate from within.

LettersToCleo: Trump, Russians align with Nazi Aldebarran energies

Its why they both use that trauma energy of the Nazi Aldebarrans to push nationalism, antisemitism, racism, likely even ethnic cleansing. Its why trump supports putin and putin supports trump, they are aligned energetically through the Aldebarrans who supported the Nazi's.

Its why those in new age also promote this are allgned with the Nazi Aldebarrans, but they dont come out and announce this. Aldebarrans believe in technology and genetic manipulation to create a master race. The dawn of a new age or humanity, one of peace for all and prosperity by transhumanism. Only way to make everyone think and act the same. But they dont tell you this either, they just call it ascension, where everyone all of a sudden decides to put away guns and military and war and inequality and choose harmony instantly. Its the only way this can happen, transhumanism, but they code word it with ascension in new age.

Tarheel: "Silent One" returns !

Timely post, Silencio. Good to see you about.

Hillary is a psychopath and Trump is a sociopath. I'll take the sociopath over that psychopathic, blood-laden ass-clown any day, They are both a sad testament to the state of the establishment today. Hillary's the establishment puppet and The Don scares them to death.

Hillary is so fake and manufactured. Anyone who cannot see that has inoperable senses. Donald is just a brat. I didn't, nor would I give ANY energy to watching those 2 debate, plus I dont have TV (for a reason).

I'm writing in for the Anu77/Edi ticket.

Tarheel: Too good not to post

This sums up our political system. I found it in my scans and HAD to share.
From wakingtimes...

In the interest of liberty and truth, here are a few uncomfortable truths about life in the American police state that we will not be hearing from either of the two leading presidential candidates.

The government is not our friend. Nor does it work for “we the people.”

Our so-called government representatives do not actually represent us, the citizenry. We are now ruled by an oligarchic elite of governmental and corporate interests whose main interest is in perpetuating power and control.

Republicans and Democrats like to act as if there’s a huge difference between them and their policies. However, they are not sworn enemies so much as they are partners in crime, united in a common goal, which is to maintain the status quo.

Presidential elections are not exercises in self-government. They are merely business forums for selecting the next CEO of the United States of America, Inc.

No matter which candidate wins this election, the police state will continue to grow. In other words, it will win and “we the people” will lose.

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

Twenty years ago, a newspaper headline asked the question: “What’s the difference between a politician and a psychopath?” The answer, then and now, remains the same: None. There is virtually no difference between psychopaths and politicians.

Americans only think they’re choosing the next president. In truth, however, they’re engaging in the illusion of participation culminating in the reassurance ritual of voting. It’s just another manufactured illusion conjured up in order to keep the populace compliant and convinced that their vote counts and that they still have some influence over the political process.

More than terrorism, more than domestic extremism, more than gun violence and organized crime, the U.S. government has become a greater menace to the life, liberty and property of its citizens than any of the so-called dangers from which the government claims to protect us.

The government knows exactly which buttons to push in order to manipulate the populace and gain the public’s cooperation and compliance.

Fear, which now permeates the populace, leads to fascism.

If voting made any difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.

America’s shadow government—which is comprised of unelected government bureaucrats, corporations, contractors, paper-pushers, and button-pushers who are actually calling the shots behind the scenes right now and operates beyond the reach of the Constitution with no real accountability to the citizenry—is the real reason why “we the people” have no control over our government.

The government does whatever it wants.

You no longer have to be poor, black or guilty to be treated like a criminal in America. All that is required is that you belong to the suspect class—that is, the citizenry—of the American police state. As a de facto member of this so-called criminal class, every U.S. citizen is now guilty until proven innocent.

Any police officer who shoots to kill rather than incapacitate is no longer a guardian of the people. By appointing himself judge, jury and executioner over a fellow citizen, such a police officer short-circuits a legal system that was long ago established to protect against such abuses by government agents.

Whether instigated by the government or the citizenry, violence will only lead to more violence. Anyone who believes that they can wage—and win—an armed revolt against the American police state is playing right into the government’s hands.

“We the people” are no longer shielded by the rule of law. While the First Amendment—which gives us a voice—is being muzzled, the Fourth Amendment—which protects us from being bullied, badgered, beaten, broken and spied on by government agents—is being disemboweled.

Government eyes are watching you. They see your every move: what you read, how much you spend, where you go, with whom you interact, when you wake up in the morning, what you’re watching on television and reading on the internet. Every move you make is being monitored, mined for data, crunched, and tabulated in order to form a picture of who you are, what makes you tick, and how best to control you when and if it becomes necessary to bring you in line.

By gradually whittling away at our freedoms—free speech, assembly, due process, privacy, etc.—the government has, in effect, liberated itself from its contractual agreement to respect our constitutional rights while resetting the calendar back to a time when we had no Bill of Rights to protect us from the long arm of the government.

Private property means nothing if the government can take your home, car or money under the flimsiest of pretexts, whether it be asset forfeiture schemes, eminent domain or overdue property taxes. Likewise, private property means little at a time when SWAT teams and other government agents can invade your home, break down your doors, kill your dog, wound or kill you, damage your furnishings and terrorize your family.

If there is an absolute maxim by which the federal government seems to operate, it is that the American taxpayer always gets ripped off.

Parents no longer have the final say over what their kids are taught, how they are disciplined, or what kinds of medical care they need. From the moment they are born to the time they legally come of age, young people are now wards of the state.

All you need to do in order to be flagged as a suspicious character, labeled an enemy of the state and locked up like a dangerous criminal is use certain trigger words, surf the internet, communicate using a cell phone, drive a car, stay at a hotel, purchase materials at a hardware store, take flying or boating lessons, appear suspicious, question government authority, or generally live in the United States.

Americans are powerless in the face of militarized police.

Despite the revelations of the past several years, nothing has changed to push back against the American police state. Our freedoms—especially the Fourth Amendment—continue to be choked out by a prevailing view among government bureaucrats that they have the right to search, seize, strip, scan, spy on, probe, pat down, taser, and arrest any individual at any time and for the slightest provocation.

Forced cavity searches, forced colonoscopies, forced blood draws, forced breath-alcohol tests, forced DNA extractions, forced eye scans, and forced inclusion in biometric databases are just a few ways in which Americans continue to be reminded that we have no control over what happens to our bodies during an encounter with government officials.

Finally, we all bleed red. And we all suffer when violence becomes the government’s calling card. Remember, in a police state, you’re either the one with your hand on the trigger or you’re staring down the barrel of a loaded gun. The oppression and injustice—be it in the form of shootings, surveillance, fines, asset forfeiture, prison terms, roadside searches, and so on—will come to all of us eventually unless we do something to stop it now. http://www.wakingtimes.com/2016/09/28/uncomfortable-truths-wont-hear-pre... for the whole article

LettersToCleo: when the PTB lines up 2 dummies to vote for

you can be sure neither is on your side or the peoples side.

just as when new age starts telling you to pick sides and russia is the good guys, same story.

just so you know trump is in with the elite and PTB, he is buddy buddy with soros which the new age demonizes.

such good buddies soros lent him 160 million to build his tower in chicago in 2004.

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/02/trump-pals-around-...

so for those thinking trump and russia is the new age messiahs, think again.

also trump talks a good talk, but he hasnt done anything for american industry, look where he has his products made.

its like an uncelibate priest telling everyone sex is a sin, when he down banging at the brothel every night.

Quinton: "you can be sure neither is

"you can be sure neither is on your side or the peoples side."

How do you figure? Was Ron Paul on the people's side? Is it possible for a president to be on the people's side? Was Thomas Jefferson on the people's side? At what point did it no longer become possible for a president to be on the people's side?

"such good buddies soros lent him 160 million to build his tower in chicago in 2004."

According to your own article:

"Donald Trump has lined up three New York hedge funds, including money from billionaire George Soros, to invest $160 million in his Chicago skyscraper, a key piece in perhaps the largest construction financing in the city's history, according to real estate sources and public documents."

Right here it shows Trump didn't take 160 million from Soros. He took it from 3 NY hedge funds in which Soros was involved. So because the whole monetary system is a controlled, rigged system it is bad to use this money to build your business?

"also trump talks a good talk, but he hasnt done anything for american industry, look where he has his products made."

So because US regulations and taxes are such crap it's bad for Trump to make the best business move of working outside of the states since it's cheaper? Isn't this an argument against the way our government regulates businesses? Isn't this the exact argument he is making?

With all due respect, I think the whole election and United States Corporation is a joke, fraud and scam, but so much of the stuff people say about Trump is quite lacking.

LettersToCleo: trump is a hypocrite

a do what i say, not as i do kind of person.

he is buddy buddy with soros, just pointing it out.

as well he is a hypocrite because he pays no taxes, he has the gaul to criticize other groups or individuals that pay 12 percent in tax.

simply its an integrity problem. you see integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking.

as for the recent sexual assault allegations, well as the list grows each day, the probability of all the women accusing him of sexual assault being liars goes to zero.

for trump you cant play the anti establishment guy who is going to fix things, when he himself manipulated the system for his own gain. if you look at his tax plan, it benefits the wealthy. you cant say all the corporations are bad because they outsourced to other countries and took away jobs, when trump himself did this for his own profit. he hasnt done anything for american industry.

he could have said no this is wrong, i want to create jobs in america and keep good paying jobs here, and made his clothes and furniture in the united states. but he didnt do this. and he is just coming out saying anything to pull the wool over peoples eyes so he can get elected.

trump anti establishment is just pure propaganda. also he knew this stuff was out there, if he thought those videos would not come out about him, he was naive.

you notice the republican party is now distancing themselves from trump, because there is going to be a reckoning in the party for those that supported trump, and created the media circus as well as allowed hillary to win.

my thoughts i think it was trumps plan to run to allow hillary to win all along. he knows his skeletons in the closet. and he was buddy buddy with the clintons before he decided to run. as he is buddy buddy with soros.

in terms of trump not taking soros money for his hotel, that is false, he did take it, along with the hedge funds money he criticized for paying low taxes.

its like the ross perot run, his job was to get the democrats in office.

Quinton: "as well he is a hypocrite

"as well he is a hypocrite because he pays no taxes, he has the gaul to criticize other groups or individuals that pay 12 percent in tax."

He has paid more taxes than 99.9% of people. Writing off income taxes does not mean he doesn't pay other forms of tax.

"simply its an integrity problem. you see integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking."

I could argue that not paying taxes holds more integrity.

"as for the recent sexual assault allegations, well as the list grows each day, the probability of all the women accusing him of sexual assault being liars goes to zero."

None have been proven as true. They barely have any evidence. It's just a media shit storm as usual.

"for trump you cant play the anti establishment guy who is going to fix things, when he himself manipulated the system for his own gain."

He didn't manipulate anything. He used the system. The system allows businesses to deduct taxes because businesses are good for the economy. Shame on him for following the law?

"if you look at his tax plan, it benefits the wealthy. you cant say all the corporations are bad because they outsourced to other countries and took away jobs, when trump himself did this for his own profit. he hasnt done anything for american industry."

Do you not see your own contradiction? You're mad at him for doing business offshore because the US taxes corporations too high, but then you're mad if he lowers taxes to allow businesses to come back to the US.

"he could have said no this is wrong, i want to create jobs in america and keep good paying jobs here, and made his clothes and furniture in the united states. but he didnt do this. and he is just coming out saying anything to pull the wool over peoples eyes so he can get elected."

And yet a logical solution to do exactly this you oppose.

"trump anti establishment is just pure propaganda. also he knew this stuff was out there, if he thought those videos would not come out about him, he was naive."

Substantiate this.

"my thoughts i think it was trumps plan to run to allow hillary to win all along. he knows his skeletons in the closet. and he was buddy buddy with the clintons before he decided to run. as he is buddy buddy with soros."

That's fair. You could be right. I think Trump had a better shot at beating Hillary than any of the other Republican candidates.

"in terms of trump not taking soros money for his hotel, that is false, he did take it, along with the hedge funds money he criticized for paying low taxes."

You said he took $160 million from Soros. He did not. Did he take some money? According to that article yes. But not $160 million.

LettersToCleo: with soros pointing out trump and soros are buddy buddy

since new age demonizes soros, adding perspective since new age seems to think putin and russia are the good guys, and trump supports putin.

also trump is a hypocrite because he didnt pay personal income tax, and he criticizes others who pay more personal income tax than him as being unpatriotic or even unamerican, or the evil bad guys. when he was worse.

if trump was so principled about keeping good paying jobs in america, he wouldnt have outsource. what does this say, he really doesnt care if good paying jobs stay in america, because his actions show this, in contrast to what he is saying on is campaign trail.

end of the day a man who fucks around on his wives, well he will have no issues fucking over his business partners, or in this case fucking over the american people.

you think trump fucked around on his wives, and he wont fuck over the american people think again. the guy has no moral compass. he make dick cheney and gw bush look like choir boys.

integrity is doing the right thing when no one is looking.

cuz trump is part of the PTB.

LettersToCleo: this is just an excuse or a cope out

"So because US regulations and taxes are such crap it's bad for Trump to make the best business move of working outside of the states since it's cheaper? Isn't this an argument against the way our government regulates businesses? Isn't this the exact argument he is making?"

if he truly believed in creating and keeping high paying jobs in america, he would have made his decision based on his principles.

his actions are not congruent with his words, its how you judge the sincerity and integrity of a person.

when actions and words are not congruent, this tells you, you are are just hearing bullshit.

all that other talk about regulations is just an excuse.

Quinton: His actions are congruent.

His actions are congruent. You're just upset that he's able to tell people how shitty the US system is all the while sidestepping it for his own benefit. I would do the same thing.

I think taxes are the height of evil. But I still pay them. My actions are not congruent with my words. Does this make me a bad person with no integrity? There's a part of practicality and reality to all this.

LettersToCleo: words and actions= true intent

i have no skin in this game, as i said i dont vote

just telling you trump is part of the PTB also.

also you are not running for oval office quinton.

this is the in congruence in trumps words and actions that makes him a hypocrite.

1)he criticizes the hedge funds and various other groups for paying low income tax.

where trump himself had admitted he used the system to pay no income tax in last 2 decades.

what does this make trump, a hypocrite.

2) trump has had number of infidelities and failed marriages yet he pulls out stuff on bill clinton, and bill isnt even running for the political office.

what does this make trump, a hypocrite

3) trump says corporations and the government are ruining america, cuz they allow jobs to be shipped over seas. what does trump do, he did the same thing, and he sits on a high horse to judge others of actions he himself did.

what does this make trump, a hypocrite

4) while the tax return news broke, trump said he had an obligation and responsibility to his shareholders and corporation to pay as little tax as possible. reality was he claimed that 900 million dollar loss on his personal income tax and not corporate income tax.

what does this make trump, a liar, cuz his personal income tax filing and paying no personal income tax for 2 decades, it has nothing to do with his company and share holders.

5) trump says the tax system is unfair, and he will reform the tax system so the average citizen will benefit.

looking at trumps tax plan it favors the wealthy.

what does this make trump, a hypocrite and a liar.

as for the sexual assault allegations, all i said was as the list grows, the chances of all of those women being liars goes to zero. his video was not lockeroom talk, he admitted to doing thing which is congruent with his character.

reality is tribalized or group dynamics has the group operating at the lowest common denominator of IQ.

this is evident in the trump tribe where sexual assault seems to be ok, or something to be ignored, or worse to degrade the woman coming out to say what happened to her.

the hypocrasy of trump is its ok when he goes after bill clinton, but when the stuff coming out on him is worse, well he says they are all liars and the system is rigged against him.

he went after minorities like mexicans and muslims, even ignored when he made fun of handicapped people. and overlooked his sexist comments towards women. the difference is his access hollywood video where he admits this stuff. and he pissed off the women he assaulted when he lied at the debate, so they are coming out to tell the truth.

we are not even going into his trump university fiasco even.

so his behaviour and character is congruent with his lack of character and integrity.

i got no skin in this game though, i dont vote. just telling ya trump isnt who he says he is, and he isnt going to do anything for average americans, even in the unlikely scenario where he gets elected,

LettersToCleo: If trump cant win utah, you know he is in trouble

latest poll in utah there shows the independent leading over the republican candidate.

looking like he is going to lose arizona as well.

as i said he is a hillary plant.

trump ran so hillary would win the oval office.

another hoodwink by the PTB to distract the masses in an election playing good cop bad cop.

LettersToCleo: Trumps Ties to Russia

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...7a0_story.html

Then there's a Russian ex-con named Felix Sater. He was an executive at the Bayrock Group, which licensed the Trump name to build the Trump SoHo New York and Trump Tower Fort Lauderdale.
Sater pleaded guilty to racketeering in 1998.
Felix Sater, whose father is a Russian Organized Crime boss, and who is one of the direct links between the Republican party Nominee for the Presidency of the United States of America, and Russian Organized Crime.
Sater, the Russian émigré and a felon convicted twice over ties to the Mafia, has appeared in many photos with Trump, and reportedly carried a Trump Organization business card with the title of ‘Senior Advisor to Donald Trump’. Sater also served time in prison for a 1991 assault at El Rio Grande restaurant in New York. He is also an executive of Bayrock Group LLC, a real estate development firm that has partnered with Trump in different projects; the founding chairman of Bayrock, Tevfik Arif, is known for its ties with Russian organized crime. In 2010 he was even charged in Turkey for the crime of smuggling underage girls into the country for prostitution purposes (something, it’s worth noting, very similar to what Trump’s friend and fellow billionaire, the pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was convicted of – the same Jeffrey Epstein whom Trump is accused of raping a 13 year old girl with).

Trump Properties sold the property to County Road Property LLC. But that's just a front. The real buyer of the property was Russian billionaire Dmitry Rybolovlev. Bought house in Palm Beach, Florida for $40 million and I sold it to a Russian for $100 million

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/07/28/trumps-deep-financial-ties-russia...

There is strong evidence that Trump's businesses have received significant funding from Russian investors. Most notably, Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. made that very claim at a real estate conference in New York in 2008, saying "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets." Donald Trump Jr. added, "we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."

LettersToCleo: trump hung out with known pedophile jeffrey epstein

The fact that Trump was pal’in around with a known pedophile is a clear indication of the type of person with whom Donald Trump found he had a lot in common. The information about Epstein is documented. It is outrageous. It is horrific.

https://www.sott.net/article/320711-Epstein-scandal-connections-Trump-ac...

https://malialitman.com/2016/07/05/palin-condemns-rats-against-the-rapis...

http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/

cmmartinpa: I see LettersToCleo is an NWO

I see LettersToCleo is an NWO puppet. I can spot them a mile away. The end is near for them.

VOTE TRUMP

LettersToCleo: Its actually you that supports NWO Cmmartinpa

since you support a candidate that is going to trial in dec for rape of a 13 year old girl,

presidential candidate who associated with a convicted pedophile, at parties at his mansion with underaged
girls, and is accused of raping a 13 year old girl. speaks volumes about that you support donald trump.

i guess you into that kind of thing.

especially since donald has a court date coming up in nyc on dec 16 on the 13 year old girl rape case.

if you support rape of minors you defintely are not awakened.

cmmartinpa: Sorry bro! President Trump

Sorry bro! President Trump says NOPE!

Oh and that bogus pedophile case you were pushing? Turns out she admitted she made it all up! Don't worry though, if you are indeed a real person in the USA then just know your life is going to get better, because Trump won! But if you are NWO then I'm glad you're having to eat shit right now. Time to Make America Great Again!

Next step?

End the Federal Reserve! Time to go back to the Gold Standard.

God Speed

cmmartinpa: Trump and Sanders Are About To Kick The NWO In The Pussy.

They are about to kick the NWO right in the pussy. The sheep have awoken. Go back to where you came. We are free now. Your un-backed fiat currency sytem is about to take its last breath. The Gold/Silver standard is on the horizon. Good Riddance.

LettersToCleo: you can live with your delusions if they make you feel better.

so i let you be believing that trump is your saviour and the new messiah reborn lol.

just watch nothings gonna change. trumps gonna tow the line.

if you read wikileaks they talk of the shadow government. bill clinton said there is an inner and outer government, and the president doesnt control the inner government.

ones that dont follow the inner governments instructions just look at lincoln, jfk, and reagan. reagan was there puppet after he learned a hard lesson on who really is in charge. and pence is there to take his place and follow the inner governments directives. he is the insurance plan that ensures trump follows instructions cuz pence will.

cmmartinpa: Trump Landslide

#TrumpLandslide

Death to the mainstream media.

LettersToCleo: Heres all the links in one thread on trump

to make it easier to click and read.

Here’s what possible fellow pedophile Trump had to say about Epstein, in 2002:

I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/attorney-donald-trump-will-have-to-an...

http://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-an...

http://www.bluedotdaily.com/sworn-testimony-from-trump-rape-case-release...

exerpt of a sworn testimony

On the fourth incident, she says Mr. Trump tied her to a bed and forcibly raped her, in a “savage sexual attack,” while she pleaded with him to stop. She says Mr. Trump violently struck her in the face. She says that afterward, if she ever revealed what he had done, Mr. Trump threatened that she and her family would be “physically harmed if not killed.” She says she has been in fear of him ever since.

In another deposition, Epstein’s brother Mark testified he once flew on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane with both him and Trump, who were “friends.” Asked why Trump was on board, Mark Epstein replied, “You’ll have to ask Donald."

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508967-deposition-excerpts.html...

cmmartinpa: Archangel Trump

Get your popcorn ready

LettersToCleo: Jeffrey epsteins brothers deposition on trump

In another deposition, Epstein’s brother Mark testified he once flew on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane with both him and Trump, who were “friends.” Asked why Trump was on board, Mark Epstein replied, “You’ll have to ask Donald."

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508967-deposition-excerpts.html...

Silenci030310: I guess we will see what

I guess we will see what happens on election and after election. Either we gotta be prepared for anything.

cmmartinpa: Is the NWO going to succeed

Is the NWO going to succeed in turning us all into mindless robots?

President Trump says NOPE!

Time to Make America Great Again!

Zurke: .... and now for something completely different.

Hillery is/was Obama with longer hair. "Democrats" (the Left) are all about corporations and money as are "Republicans" (Where are they?). They wouldn't be elected to office without "support" (money) from corporations and big individual donors. Trump was a long shot in a crowd of the usual Republicans. Those people that claim they are for smaller government. The only reason he made the primaries is because the media, right and left, gave him coverage. They gave coverage because they thought he didn't stand a chance. Not that I think the usual "Romneys" would have beaten the Beast. But they failed to recognize that there were enough people fed up with the status quo. Even after the dust has settled few are talking about the massive media collusion and pro Hillery stance. Proven beyond any reasonable doubt.

Trump may be another corporate ally. His attractiveness came from saying what other candidates were not willing to or afraid to talk about. That our country is being raped. By Trade Agreements, Immigration, the UN etc.. We see it, we know it but nothing ever changes. Promises built on status quo is what we have seen for a very long time.

Immigration on the scale we have seen over the last 20 years has had a massive impact on our economy. It was said cheap labor immigrants were just picking fruit, the jobs Americans couldn't afford to keep. Look around they are on the roofs, installing carpet, in our factories, restaurants and retail outlets. The idea that those are jobs Americans don't want is a fraud. Higher education is a fraud putting millions of Americans into massive debt and telling them they are better than those carpet laying jobs.

Ross Pero and the massive sucking sound. Well that was proven truth. Our Trade Agreements are anti American. Call me a Nationalist but when it comes to my family eating or someone from another country having a job, I will choice my family every time.

Trump, early on, touch on some big things wrong with the USA. We know it, we see it every day. But the pro "Hillery/Romney" media tells us everything is just fine, relax because up next is "Private Lives of Those You Could Care Less About".

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