How to identify human extraterrestrials amongst us

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Zendor: agreed, but it is a working doc

ISO 9000 series are manufacturing standards used worldwide. One would hope they would offer the ratified document, but alas they are a for profit company. They still operate with last century's business model. Crock or not, it is a working document that can be used. Get a copy and read through it. Then talk further.

Annunaki77: ASHTAR COMMAND IS NO FREEDOM

ASHTAR COMMAND is Tyranny.

And how in the Hell do you equate Lucifer / Satan / or En ki with Ashtar Command.

Your Teachings are severely flawed. Ashtar is ISIS.

Enemy to Enki.

Terran resistance: thanks

thanks for bringing zero evidence to the table half way through a debate oh wise annunaki77....

Tarheel: Respect Free Will please.

Anu77 offers perspective through experience. Try not to be offensive.

Point/Counter-point is HEALTHY, TR.

bluesbaby5050: Yes! SOME of us do remember............

Your warnings,and your teachings about this enemy of yours ISIS aka ASHTAR and their groups.NO FREEDOMS, and PRESENTS PLENTY OF TYRANNY. Remember the GALACTIC CONFEDERATION OF LIGHT,AND THEIR LEGION OF LIGHT WORKERS ANNU77 WARNED US ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO?

Zendor: warning... warning will robinson...

I wasn't here two years ago. I find it very interesting that the greatest wisdom comes from exploring those thing we are 'warned' about, to find the truth that most of the time freedom reigns just on the other side of the door.

Zendor: perspective

I didn't put any constraints on creation. Everything you can imagine is within that one, and then some no doubt. I may have taken a wide brush stroke, but it was one worthy of taking. Just look around at the liabilities, limitations and excuses folks offer to justify their positions or lack thereof. It certainly isn't prejudice, but you are welcome to perceive it that way.

I've said before that I don't claim to be all-knowing Far from it, but I do have an experience beyond most that allows me to see things much differently, especially after years of vetting that experience through unyielding whacks on the chopping block. Again, spirituality acknowledges the connection to everything. That certainly isn't giving up. It's just the beginning of awareness.

Ashtar is Ashtar. Isis is Isis. Two completely different folks. I was told once, by a gentleman who was a mechanical engineer on the V2 rockets, Wolfgang Krause, that I carry the father/mother energy of Osiris. I'm not sure why he said that or what it has to do with anything. He felt it was something important for me to know, though. Sounds like you've been reading too much of Sitchin's stuff. I met him years ago. Strange look in his eyes that seemed a little off center.

Terran resistance: ahahaha

did you say anything to Sitchin? I used to be a fan of him when i was younger say about 13, but then i grew up... so people think anyway.

Osiris + isis = horus, supposed to be an ancient egyptian version of the trinity,
thats what he was probably refering to. Germany was known as the fatherland after all :P

Though in reality from my studies of mythology this is completely wrong. Because people keep making the same mistake of thinking that all female goddesses are the same, though in reality gods tend to change gender between mythologies.

Zendor: we agree... isn't that interesting :)

I did speak with him for a few minutes, but he'd just gotten done with a presentation, so his attention wasn't really in the moment if you know what I mean. I was the event coordinator, hired to do all the logistics and site management. That was in October of 1997 in Phoenix, six months after the Phoenix Lights. I didn't see them (didn't really need to) but I frequented Village Labs during that time, where all the interviews took place. If you are familiar with Jim Dilettoso and Michael Tanner, they were partners in the Lab which was backed by Geordie Hormel (one of the heirs).

I also got a chance for private chats with Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Bob Dean (whom I've developed a friendship), Jose and Lloydine Arquelles (most fun and intelligent couple I've met) and some others. Zachariah seemed 'absent' to some degree and his eyes were clouded when I peered in. Two folks I felt completely out of sync with were David Icke and Steven Greer; completely different off stage than on and not very nice unless you have something they need or want.

onward through the fog...

The birth, death and resurrection process has been around long before Christianity ever stepped onto the scene. No, Wolfgang wasn't referring to Horus at all, but we did have a conversation around the 'trinity' of their presentation. He we very methodical about his message giving, more thorough than most people I've run across. I suppose that was from his engineering background. The Seth material about oversouls makes some sense, but again we haven't explored our nature enough to know for sure yet. Still too much bickering.

I agree that the gender confusion does happen.. a lot. There are some references to androgynous beings, though, wisdom keepers of a cosmic order. My educated guess is that humans encountered others they could only assume were gods and goddesses based on limited understanding and witnessing abilities far beyond human at the time.

caseyhue: Another

I've also noticed that you can tell by the Neck line an the body in proportional. Aside from that if you develop or just get in touch with yourself stop using your thought process so much you can pick up on your emotion, inner feelings your keen sense... that can direct you into if they are human or not. We all have it !! More people are glued to this thought process an that's where they get you .. brainwashing you etc.. IT reminds of first time going into a casino an seeing everyone fixed on slot machines.. that's what I see in this world. Gotta break the chains.. I do believe music is just as powerful as the Tv.. The words, the music an what they hide inside....

Other thing I found out is their inconsistency with emotion especially if it doesn't fit the topic or issue at hand. It's starts to add questions too....

Terran resistance: thats a gooden!

"I've also noticed that you can tell by the Neck line an the body in proportional"

im tempted to edit the existing post again to add a few more points in now...

I also noticed that some of them a bigger than average necks....some of them a flippin massive.

edisonik: ASHTAR COMMAND IS A FARCE!!! REPTILIANS IN DISGUISE!

You bring in ASHTAR COMMAND and you bring Death & Carnage. Ignore those who Preach Ashtar Command.
These Orion Reptilians will Eat you.

Terran resistance: lol

"These Orion Reptilians will Eat you."

im statistically more likely to get eaten by you....
its outlandish statements like that, which do a great disservice to the ufo community and why people dont believe in aliens in the first place.

bluesbaby5050: That's Right............

They already sent the Planet Earth a message back in the early1970's in THE UK IN REAL TIME, as a warning to lay down all our (weapons for protection),or we would be Done away with and REMOVED FROM THIS GALAXY. Humanity was actually THREATHENED BY THIS ALIEN BEING OF ASHTAR COMMAND! THESE ARE ALL TRUE REPORTS FROM THE WIKIPEDIA SITE,THE ORIGINAL TELEVISED NEWS REPORT WAS HIGHJACKED BY THESE ALIEN BEINGS OF THE ASHTAR COMMAND, AS THE SPOKES PERSON WAS A ALIEN NAME VIRLILION. CHECK OUT THE VIDEO AS IT IS LOCATED AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE OF WIKIPEDIA. ASHTAR COMMAND,AND HIS CO. Lord Sananda=Jesus, and Korton,and Trulla from Mount Shasta? DO YOUR HOMEWORK. THEY ARE NOT OUR/HUMANTIES TRUE ALLIES! YOU PEOPLE WERE WARNED OF THEM IN THE PAST BY ANNU77, AND EDISONKI, AND OTHERS ON THIS SITE. You were also warned of PROJECT BLUEBEAM TOO. Does this sound familiar to any of you?

Zendor: transcription of Vrillion's message...

Here's what was really said... both to Van Tassel (my bad, it wasn't Adamski) and by Vrillion - http://ow.ly/k5ipF and... btw... there's no mention of - Done away with and REMOVED FROM THIS GALAXY - at all. Please get your facts straight. This is exactly what I was talking about earlier. Fear and projection of false information - in this case the reference to the transcript that is completely incorrect. :) The 'evil forces that overshadow judgment' is a reference to selfishness and separation from the unconditional love of self and others.

Tarheel: Ashtar Command certainly "feels" deceptive to me.

My intuition says stay away. I don't get a warm fuzzy but rather a cold, prickly sense from "them".I admit to being naive with regards to AC but I will follow my gut feeling, U F N.

bluesbaby5050: Your Already VERSED BY ANNU77, and EDISONIK ..................

In these teachings of the ASHTAR COMMAND OF THE GALACTIC CONFEDERATION OF LIGHT,Because you were already a member of Truth Control when Both teachers taught you/us all about them.YOU WAS PRESENT DURING THESE POSTINGS, and You Responded to them. I have the Transcription of the postings,and you had alot to say about them then,and even ANNU77,and EDISONIK RESPONDED TO ALL YOUR QUESTIONS,I WAS THERE AT THAT TIME. You were WELL INFORMED BACK THEN TARHEEL. Chris was a member then too, and he was present in the forum,and so was Quinton as well.

Tarheel: Nobody has any idea what you are saying.

Please omit referencing me or replying to me in your posts and stay out of my Inbox. GFOL never resonated with me.

Anu77 & Edi have taught much here including this. My point was AC doesnt mean anything more to me now than it ever has. I always exercise my Free Will and form my own opinion after listening to what anyone has to say. You should try it.

Transcriptions of what? Nobody has any idea what you are saying when referencing this, Chris/Quinton etc. You need to choose your arguments better.

This is a GRAND distortion of Source's true intention.

bluesbaby5050: @ Tarheel..........

Play COY all you want, and with your Fuzzie little warm feelings, and Cold Prickly Skin lol! You pretend to be friends with everyone till your Caught in a lie. You don't fool any of us here. Annu77, and Edisonik knows the real truth too, because they had taught you about them, just like the older members of Truth Control were. The Old Postings are still available, and were not erased at all. Lies cannot be covered up, by more lies. I thought you were above all that. THE GALACTIC CONFEDERATION WAS PLAINLY EXPLAINED TO YOU IN DEPTH. So why did you pretend not to know about them, and who they are already,,, was my POINT! That's what I questioned you about. Your the one that said that about them, I ONLY QUESTIONED YOUR REPLY IN YOUR THREAD.THAT WAS ALL, and now Your Offended by your own reply,and you react to me in anger, because I only asked you WHY ?! This is NOT LOVING BEHAVIOR for one that claims he's on the path of Enlightenment!

Zendor: the door to freedom...

Based on all the information you seem to have, the natural inclination would be to be scared shitless. I get that, but the information you seem to have is - at best - incomplete. Obviously there has been no direct experience with 'them' and wouldn't be as long as you are in a fear-based place. They DO NOT invade where uninvited. I had a visitation on the banks of the Wabash River just across from Vincennes, IN in 1978. I was with my future wife, camping on the other side of the levee in a field. I had walked up and sat down on the levee in the middle of the night, sat down and was listening to the river sounds. I closed my eyes and within a few moments I heard a high-pitched tone that began descending, not only in pitch but it felt like it completely surrounded me as it reached its lowest vibration. I fell into a conversation with 'someone' that referenced my previous experience in the Light (http://ow.ly/k5lGw) and now that I was responsible for someone (asleep in the tent) I felt a little apprehensive and a bit fearful - not because I was afraid, per se, but because I felt responsible for someone else. As soon as that came up for me, which was well into the conversation, they sensed my apprehension and left, with the sound happening in reverse. So, that would indicate that there was no 'invasion' of personal space intended.

Tarheel: You MIGHT wanna check your verbage.......

...you said "They don't invade where not invited".

So, they DO invade where they ARE invited ??? Well, we're certainly are NOT inviting them to Earth.

Zendor: totally out of context

Let me put it more appropriately... they don't invade, PERIOD. Funny how people just look for a way to twist words to their own purpose. If you really look at the history of the ET experience, most well-documented in recent times starting in the late 1940s and early 1950s you will find a most interesting and consistent notion of helpfulness, honor and respect for life.

More recently if you look into a retired Defense Minister from Canada, Paul Hellyer, who has disclosed that the Military Industrial Complex and ALL Governments of the world are aware that is NO threat from ANY extraterrestrial race. Research Mr. Hellyer and you'll find a man of authenticity, honor, integrity and respect among his peers. He echoes what has been well-know amongst 'real' contactees and experiencers for a long, long time.

Of course you may find contrary information all over the web, but take a serious look at who it is, where it comes from and the intent of the distraction and diversion away from creating any kind of harmony among people and planet. I literally gave my life to know truth... can anyone here say they have done so and actually got called 'up' as a result? Probably not. Point made.

If you don't have a direct experience and you are relying on others experience and words, then you don't have the authority or conviction of your experience to speak authentically. You can grab hold of anything and thrust it forward without testing of vetting the information THROUGH YOUR OWN DIRECT EXPERIENCE. Anything less is still questionable and suspect, imho.

Tarheel: That's why I said "check your verbage". Hello?

At least your attitude isn't as nasty as AyaSHinTARa (aka ASHTAR). Every word outta ASHTAR's mouth is nasty and baited for fighting. Check the evidence.

Zendor: really?

not my experience at all... not at all. whomever you are talking about by some other name and then converting it to ASHTAR simply isn't consistent with my experience. Again, someone else's words... not ASHTAR's. I don't need to check evidence. I have my own experience - trumps evidence every time.

btw.. who are you really? why do you hide behind a screen name? what do you do in life? I've been fully transparent here. Why aren't you? Do you have a REAL experience or are you just mimicking what you have taken from all the bullshit on the Web?

Are those questions aggressive or baiting?

Tarheel: I will tell you what I'm not......

....I'm not someone promoting my books or website, nor Ashtar Command.

Tell us, how do YOU feel about Draco Reptiles ?

And your "all ETs are good, go ask some Dr or scientist from Canada" is a load of crap. You want us to believe all ETs are coming here with no agenda? WTFU. They wouldn't waste their time or assets if they had no agenda. Careful, you're getting transparent.

I have many experiences, and I share mine and everybody here knows me and my agenda , so your attempts to discredit me will falter.

Oh, so I guess you want me to believe your real name is Zendor? Like...The Council of Zendor....that's you? Please, you'll need to take another tact. And I would advise you engage someone else, I'm awake.

Terran resistance: we sure

we sure do.

Zendor: I am...

and the rest is your perception based on your lens. I've shared my experience and understanding, my work and am not here to convince anyone of anything. Why would I need to discredit anyone?

If you believe I'm here to discredit you, then that isn't my issue. It isn't my intent, either. I appreciate your point of view, though. People discredit themselves. I have nothing to do with that. If you want to brandish your sword I'm really not in the mood.

Here's my limited experience and reflection of Dracs... http://ow.ly/kfS4m

It wasn't a Dr. or scientist, it was a retired Minister of Defense. Check the records again, please.

I have no idea what the Council of Zendor is, but I so see where you could have gotten confused. The web reference cuts from the content to the picture alt text, so it reads Council of zendor. 'zendor' starts the tag.

If my experience and understanding conflicts with your own, there isn't anything I can do about it. I certainly am not attacking you or your experiences. I can only speak from my experience and the rest works out over time. I don't expect others to have such experiences or see things the way I do, frankly. Thank you.

Tarheel: Someone asks you what time it is...

....and you tell them how the watch was made. Nice diversionary tactic. Your righteous stance wont win you nor TR any publicity campaigns-and you need to win publicity campaigns to sell books and promote websites and recruit viewers for History channel series.

Choose your battles a little more wisely Aristotle-NOT. You're fighting against yourself. You are unable to hang with me in any arena so my sword remains in it's sheath. You cant discredit me because people here know me. I am wrong on occasion (not this time), and I certainly admit it when I am. You, however, are in a new venue/house to garnish book sales n web hits (self-promotion), and also because TR needs help with his "ufo community agenda". (pssst-Bickering with me wont help you).

Zendor nomenclature? Well, YOU said you were transparent and you obviously arent. Why not just put your name up in neon lights if you are so open? Remember, it was YOU who went asking for transparency. Spin that one. You're not that good at it.

Actually, I am of the school of transformation/experiential vs. evolution/saviourship model. Im simply wide awake to people with an agenda and I pegged you (like I did TR) from the start.

You're welcome.

Eldertree: You need to realise that

You need to realise that people don't think that about me. Your say these thing's about me because I don't submit to your nonsense. You are obsessed with talking about me to the point you mention my. nqme on every thread and I find interesting that you warn others to stay clear from me. You are ridiculous lol. 12 year olds act more mature than you do.

Terran resistance: Also Zendor

Also Zendor though having differing beliefs can still give us valuable insight into ashtar command.

bluesbaby5050: ASHTAR Command also uses Music............

WHICH IS SOUND VIBRATIONAL Frequencies to open the human to their messages. TR you were not aware of the News station being HighJacked in REAL TIME In YOUR country of the UK? This REALLY took place back in 1970's and YOU were not even born then. Check it out for yourself.

Zendor: bad news and smear campaigns

From the onset, those with information that empowers people have usually had some kind of smear campaign against them. A great book to illustrate that point is 'The Lucifer Principle' by Howard Bloom. It has nothing to do with 'Lucifer' but everything to do with a scientific study of how people have treated each other throughout history. Very good book if you want to learn about the inside track of how people have manipulated the public. It certainly isn't pretty, but smear campaigns are very effective. Look at what has happen. No proof but much fear.

A bit of a correction, Terran. I don't have different beliefs. My beliefs aren't even part of the equation here. I have a different view of the Ashtar Command because I've been part of it since a child, but didn't truly know it until my early 30s. I base my assertions and presentation on my experience, not a belief system. Although, no doubt there may be some subtle beliefs I've developed based on those experiences.

If you take the time to look at what 'transmissions' have been linked to the AC early on, like Adamski's work or Vrillion ni the UK, there has never been anything that even hinted of a militaristic nature, let alone making anyone subservient in any way. They have always been in support of the growth of understanding in universal law, hoping to protect mankind from ripping themselves apart because of their separative notions and lack of awareness of the fabric of space/time... the effect of splitting the atom and the universal brother/sisterhood we keep ignoring.

What I see in those who are afraid is just that... those who are afraid. I call it the butt-pucker syndrome. They are afraid of anything outside their understanding and they take the words of others as gospel instead of doing their own investigation. They are truly ambivalent, lazy and like the argument for the sake of thinking they know something. It's all ego.

The real investigation doesn't come from a book or a person or a video... it comes through the individual, personally. Each has their own direct connect to Infinite Intelligence. Denial of it doesn't matter. It's still there. Each has the power to ask questions and get answers. It is Universal LAW that when one asks sincere questions the ANSWERS SHOW UP. oh, btw... that is also one of the precepts of the AC - don't believe them... TEST THE TRUTH on your own. It's the only way you will really know.

caseyhue: Everyone

Has their own view points on things an we can't change what other people choose to believe, discredit or accept as truth. That's a very hard task to do this, but we can all exercise Peace is the most important an caring for life. Unite despite your differences or these Reptilians will get in your mind an tear humanity apart..

caseyhue: Everyone

Has their own view points on things an we can't change what other people choose to believe, discredit or accept as truth. That's a very hard task to do this, but we can all exercise Peace its the most important an caring for life. Unite despite your differences or these Reptilians will get in your mind an tear humanity apart..

Tarheel: Good point, CaseyHue.

No one of us is as strong as ALL of us.

caseyhue: Sorry!!

Sorry.. didn't realize it posted twice..

caseyhue: Sorry!!

Sorry.. didn't realize it posted twice..

caseyhue: Sorry!!

Sorry.. didn't realize it posted twice..

Terran resistance: ....

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