by freedmftr88 on September 3rd, 2018

    I don't know how many people here go on in5D.com but I highly recommend it !

    https://in5d.com/the-secret-meaning-of-the-tree-of-the-knowledge-of-good...

    I was reading this article which I found very interesting and tying it in to MBTI .

    www.slayerment.com/tags/mbti

    https://www.typologycentral.com/forums/myers-briggs-and-jungian-cognitiv...

    And what I found very interesting. In fact it also related to my MBTI New World Order infographic.

    My conclusion is who ever is responsible for The New World Order , perhaps maleviolent extraterrestrials and not human , it seems to me that there's some sort of MBTI pyramid.
    If the ones on the top don't have personality types , then at least they find certain types more easy to control than others. Which brings up to my mind the DSM / American Psychology Association and the typical Neurologist test . The test clearly is Pro Left Brain and Anti-Right Brain . So would that mean in the eyes of hierarchy that Right-brained people are mentally ill ?

    Also how the article relating to Adam & Eve seems pro Patriarchy . It's like saying all woman are Right brained and there for evil and foolish which is totally sexist and ignorant . What about left brained women ? Would they also be frown upon by hierarchical society ?

    It's all a very interesting topic indeed and even just how it all links together, even politically.

    I'm not saying a certain personality type is good or evil , but I just find it very interesting how such a hierarchy could exist .

    But maybe it's quite simple , right wing people are the minorities in general but SF right brained women are the majority.

     Filed under: Biblical, MBTI, Politics, Brain, Hierarchy, The New World Order, Patriarchy

    10 Comments

    Tarheel: I don't agree with you on this freeftr

    I don't agree that entire is lucifer....I do agree he is ea. Environmental is a picture of benevolence.lucifer is a light bringer and not bad if you ask me. They're both ok with me.

    freedmftr88: Satan / Lucifer theory

    Similar to a comment I've made awhile back https://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/satan-and-lucifer-are-they-same-perso...

    Satan / Lucifer ( Probably one in the same or not ) has two theories from what I've observed .
    There's the intuitive rebel which I've mentioned , likewise relating to the origins of Anton LaVey and his take on Satanism which is more of an anti-religion and almost to the point of anarchism like on the lines of just " Be human " . More philosophical than political .This idea itself is interesting. I'm not a Satanist myself but I always find something interesting about an intuitive based idea that thinks outside the box which that's pretty much what The Church of Satan represents . There is Devil Worshiping and the whole Satanic scare in the 1980s but I would say that is more on the lines of Black Magick / Dark side of the occult. They have called themselves Satanists but The Church of Satan begs to differ.

    I'm not sure if the idea of Satan / Lucifer was an invention of hierarchical authority which might as well have been not only the authors of the bible but also the murderers of Jesus Christ which gives them freedom to discredit him and use him as a tool for the majority to obey. Today we have proof easily about pretty much anything , more so thanks to the internet. But back then , authority would try to destroy as much evidence against them as possible. But of course there's leaks.

    But I definitely think there is a dark universe as well as a universe of light . It's interesting how someone can connect to spirit guides the same exact way with human friendly demons but of course demons are double crossers .

    How is there one big evil God aka Satan / Lucifer ? Same goes with a one entity of good " God , Allah , whatever ". Though what I do know being an empath of all sorts relating to New Age / New Thought Spirituality , perhaps both energies are abstract and fluid like a collective of past souls. Good souls are angels and they are a mix of ex-humans or non-earth born souls. Perhaps the same could be said about the firely underword .

    I personally don't think there's a specific utopia / dystopia of Heaven & Hell afterlife but perhaps several abstract aspects that are pretty much the same thing including life on Earth which is both that Ying and Yang perhaps battling each other as well as afterlife.

    Perhaps with the goal of the crash of the Illuminati and The New World Order which will develop into a 5D Earth which is like a free society but pure unconditional love.

    http://in5d.com/who-really-runs-this-world/
    https://in5d.com/are-you-ready-to-go-home-to-5d-earth/
    https://in5d.com/transitioning-into-5d-earth/

    freedmftr88: Satan vs Lucifer

    Sorry , the link didn't work out.
    My comments are on this link
    https://www.truthcontrol.com/forum/satan-and-lucifer-are-they-same-perso...

    Quinton: Interesting stuff.

    Interesting stuff.

    I don't think that article has it right when it says the tree of knowledge of good and evil has to do with left/right brain, or even male and female. I think that is a more simplistic, low level way of viewing it. Granted, it makes sense to a degree and there is certainly value in exploring that, I think it misses the greater truth. There are also tons of ways to view this stuff so who really knows.

    In my understanding, the tree of knowledge of good and evil isn't about left or right, male or female. It's about consciousness, as are pretty much all ancient teachings when you get right down to it. Good and evil doesn't have to do with male and female energy, it has to do with having the consciousness to discern between the two. It has to do with having the understanding of duality and the way energy works. It's not male good and female bad. They're both "good" because they're both energy. Evil doesn't exist. There's only energy and perspectives of that energy that we call good or evil.

    The Bible talks about opening our eyes and becoming like gods and having the knowledge of good and evil. Becoming like gods is an upgrade in consciousness whether literal or metaphoric. Good and evil come as a package deal. I think people get caught up and assume that evil is being added on top of good in that verse. It's not. They're both coming together for the first time, not just evil being added to an already existing good.

    If you're going to play in the world of duality with good and evil then you're no longer an animal. You're no longer an animal human living at that level. If you're entering into the realm of good and evil now you're dealing with the consciousness of gods.

    I think Caroline Myss said it best:

    I have no interest in right or wrong, I gave that up long ago. My scale is accuracy.

    freedmftr88: Theory : Inner Wholeness = External Global Freedom = 5D Earth

    Consciousness and perspectives is indeed key to duality.
    One’s perspective of good vs evil is truly that individual’s personal taste.
    Relating to consciousness truly depends on their state of mind which will determine their actions.
    If they are whole within , they won’t feel like the need to fight off the world outside of themselves.
    But if they are not whole within , they are going to fight outside of themselves which causes unfortunate results and consequences instead of solving problems. If everyone was whole within then there would finally be peace in the world. Which I think is considered to be a 5D Earth Free Society .
    Libertarian Socialist Anarchism according to my research definitely has it’s moralities with a humanitarian mindset and the goal in hoping such an experiment will benefit humanity and Earth life as a whole. While it may be beneficial to a lot of people according to their personality types , it might not for others which is the problem. Freedom in general Is definitely key because it results to universalism ( if that’s the right word ) , my definition is “ if what is universally accepted in terms of duality . What feels good to most / all human beings - living creatures and what doesn’t feel good to most human beings - living creatures = duality on a political agreement according to a universal prospective.
    But on a spiritual level which is considered to be of a higher vibrational energy , it’s truly key when it comes to self mastery first and foremost.
    Whole within and Freedom ( respect for one another )

    What are your thoughts regarding self-determination theory ? I learned abut that from one of Cameron’s Libertarian Socialist Rants videos which he challenges what is usually believed to be “ Human Nature “ .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQnUFxoFqNY&t=28s

    How about the David Hawkins theory of The Scale of Consciousness ?

    Relating , as an empath of all sorts myself one of the things I’m learning is how a true light workers’ mission is to live life happy by becoming the master of one self and to heal the world by letting the human world know that’s the way to be. Likewise to learn about what’s truly going on in the world in terms of hierarchy.

    I would consider “ Hierarchy “ to be the one word that describes “ Evil “ best. But again , is the energy low due to the unconsciousness that that it does have the power over it’s self ? Or is it just this dark triad control freak just because ?

    One of the most important lessons I’ve learned in life is that people fear what they don’t understand.
    For me , I’ve always questioned “Why” if something feels unjust. Say someone got hurt by a bully.
    It’s really the fault of both parties. The victim has low self esteem and feel like they are not the master of their own self and life and the bully probably has low self esteem because they feel that fighting off the world outside of themselves means they never need to face their own ego shadows and unconsciousness from within.
    Therefore both lose because like energy attracted like energy ( aka Law of Attraction ) . Losing in the matter of both are not achieving what they DO actually want out of life.

    I think the biggest question to bare in mind regarding the state of the world is on the lines of “ What is “ vs “ What could be “.

    If changing the world which everyone on the outside is happy can never be done , then Heaven is truly within and not without.

    However , if everyone knew that then hierarchy would disappear = 5D Earth .

    Likewise “ like attracts like “ . If someone is engaging in a friendly matter to another , that’s going to bring about good vibes.

    So with everyone feeling good from within , that would create the Energetic collective . And therefore such a good vibrational energy which in New Thought / New Age Spirituality terms such spirit guides would become stronger as so will the planet which would result maybe , just maybe “ All laws of time / space / and Earth based energy “ to disappear .

    If all energy effects each other , then that would truly result to what would be considered “ Good or Evil “.

    And since unconditional love , freedom , self mastery , spiritual peace /enlightenment is the highest vibration , that can only mean Evil ( aka unconscious energy fighting off the external world ) would disappear .

    Equaling to such a Heaven utopia !

    In conclusion , perhaps it’s not the idea of a 100% happy world is impossible but how it’s approached.

    Kind of reminds me of the story in You2 by Price Pritchett about the two flies. Both flies want to escape to freedom. One keeps fighting against it’s external reality by banging itself against the closed window until it wares itself to death while the other fly takes time to think and realizing thinking outside the box is key. In result , the fly discovers a brand new exit which is the opened front door.
    Sure the example isn’t related to spirituality but the “ Think Different “ is they key element which I’m highlighting here.

    Anyway I think that's what truly is behind duality which is Ego vs Soul ( unconcious vs concious ) basically .

    Tarheel: great

    Its great to see a well contrived discussion here.everone is making good points and strong arguments with quality sourcing.
    How I believe remains a work in progress and after reading freedoom fighter and Quinton banter,I feel like I'm on the right path.

    Tarheel: but

    I don't believe Satan and lucifer are the same. I'm not sure how I could call lucifer bad when I'm trying to help open eyes.
    Satan I see as more of a dark entity.
    I am open to arguments put forth,especially if they are as well stated as the immediately preceding.

    freedmftr88: Is Energy an Entity ? Or Magnetic Atoms through thoughts ?

    I think what is questionable regarding the forces of good vs evil is , is it a human invention based upon what is provided consciously or unconsciously what is wanted vs what is not wanted or does ENERGY take on a life of it's own . New Thought basically states that energy is created by human thoughts and feelings. So if the dawn of time of Earth was symbolized as this big blank energy sphere and everything and life itself with the mix of positive energy and negative energy , would life itself ( aka why life is the way it is ) basically be the collective of all thoughts and feelings ? And when it comes to the individuals , whatever is on their individual mind , they are going to attract. So is energy just that ? Magnet atoms of energy controlled by humans ( and perhaps animals too in their limited capacity , of survival needs , fight vs flight ) ? OR is there indeed ex-human spirits which are angels in which they bring forth empath spirits such as old souls , starseeds , indigo / cyrstal , twin flames , lightworkers , heyoka : sacred clowns , rainbow children , etc to Earth to help with the ascension transition to 5D Earth just by transmitting unconditional love energy to the world. Obviously like energy will influence because if someone is in a depressed state then no one wants to be around that other person , but if someone is smiling and in a good moon , people would immediately feel drawn to their positive energy. ( Unless it's a fake smile and their Aura is telling a completely different story ) . It's all intuition. Clearing Chokras and healing wounded karma brings forth a clearer connection , especially if it's telepathy to spirit guides.

    I think a big question to ask is , is there a leading big entity that represents conscious positive high vibrational energy as well as one entity that represents dark energy , low vibrational Ego , etc ?
    Or is it a collective of energy and ex-souls mixed in ? Or perhaps both . Kind of like the symbolism of a While and a big conforming school of fish feeding off it ?

    Quinton: > I think what is

    > I think what is questionable regarding the forces of good vs evil is , is it a human invention based upon what is provided consciously or unconsciously what is wanted vs what is not wanted or does ENERGY take on a life of it's own .

    This is a really good question. From my perspective energy is neutral. Energy is the platform of consciousness. Energy is consciousness. Does this mean energy itself is conscious? Maybe. It's a really interesting question.

    > So if the dawn of time of Earth was symbolized as this big blank energy sphere and everything and life itself with the mix of positive energy and negative energy , would life itself ( aka why life is the way it is ) basically be the collective of all thoughts and feelings ?

    I think so.

    > And when it comes to the individuals , whatever is on their individual mind , they are going to attract. So is energy just that ? Magnet atoms of energy controlled by humans ( and perhaps animals too in their limited capacity , of survival needs , fight vs flight ) ?

    I think so. I don't fully get how this works but I think it is something like this. Everything has consciousness at their level. Obviously animals do, but so do plants at their level. And so do minerals at their level. As do atoms at their level. Everything is conscious relative to its own constitution. And I do think consciousness works similar to some type of magnetism where it all pulls the intertwined mesh of all consciousness towards its intent.

    > OR is there indeed ex-human spirits which are angels in which they bring forth empath spirits such as old souls , starseeds , indigo / cyrstal , twin flames , lightworkers , heyoka : sacred clowns , rainbow children , etc to Earth to help with the ascension transition to 5D Earth just by transmitting unconditional love energy to the world.

    It's not "OR". It's all the above.

    > I think a big question to ask is , is there a leading big entity that represents conscious positive high vibrational energy as well as one entity that represents dark energy , low vibrational Ego , etc ?
    Or is it a collective of energy and ex-souls mixed in ? Or perhaps both .

    Probably both, like you said.

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