By Paola Harris
I just recently wrote a piece for the October 2000 issue of UFO magazine on Vatican representative Rev. Monsignor Balducci who stesses the importance of witness testimony in investigations. Although I personally have never really seen anything or experienced CONTACT like even so many of my military witnesses have confessed to, I'd better take heed. In the past, most of my investigative journalistic efforts were of the concrete government/ military witnesses type or of a" nuts and Bolts' scientific nature. They are people who were involved first hand like Colonel Philip Corso, Dr. Michael Wolf, Sgt. Major Robert O Dean and Clifford Stone.
However, I am beginning to believe that we should begin to look at the whole picture from a different perspective as now many"experiencers" also are giving first hand accounts of this very paranormal Phenomenon. I believe some of these people are telling the TRUTH here.
In an effort to bring a more comprehensive approach here, I am including this unusual interview with Alex Collier.
Now the Alex Collier interview is truly a stretch for me because I don't usually interview Contactees but his name was given to me first by the Reverend Jean Holmes, whom I greatly respect, at the Standing Elk STAR KNOWLEDGE Conference last year. I ignored it then because the timing wasn't right. Then, by chance, a young Italian Contactee in ITALY suggested that I contact him this year! Since I go largely by instinct , I tracked down ALEX COLLIER in Colorado. He has much to say that has been verified by my previous "nuts and bolts" witnesses He mentions Hoagland's research at least 12 times and it is no coincidence that I am researching Hoagland's MARS claims. So SOMEONE must be leading me along a given path.
In conclusion, it is non characteristic for me to do this kind of interview but I make it a point to meet the people I interview and I did sit and speak with Alex Collier for 4 hours on July 29th,2000. To this reporter, he appeared very credible. The book is worth reading!
Food for thought!!!!
Note :see Book page: ** contactee( Contatista)Alex Collier
Defending Sacred Ground by Alex Collier
601 16th Street (c-244)
Golden Colorado 80401 $25.00 includes Postage
The Validity Of Witness Testimony
Interview with Alex Collier
July 28th ,2000
Alex Collier: How did you find me?
Paola Harris: I think that I am a "bridge" that links people world wide and I am
surprised that I am speaking to more contactees lately because I have been
dealing with Military and government witnesses in my writings. I was asked
to contact you by Rocco Maschitti who is a young Italian guy who lives on
the Adriatic Coast of Italy. How could he possibly know of you?
Alex Collier: I don't know . I think this information has a life of its own. From
every country in the world, we get e-mails, India, China, Russia, even
Albania because a lot of people know. People know there is something else
going on. That we are not the only ones.. A lot of them have actually seen
the metal themselves. They have actually seen the crafts or they know
somebody who has.
Harris: Let's get back to you. Let's look at the foundation of this because I
don't know the slightest thing about this.
Is your information channeled?
Collier: No. I'm very suspicious of 95% of the channeled information.
Harris: So how did you begin then? As a child?
Collier: It's all here in the book. It started when I was 8 at a family picnic
in Michigan. I remember I was lying down in some tall grass and just hiding.
Next thing I remember I closed my eyes expecting to be found and the next
thing I know I am lying on a table looking at two men, a short one, who was
very very old looking , very white skin and on the other side of him was a
tall one , a huge man. They were hairless but they were human in every sense
of the word even their eyes but there is skin is blue. It is because of
their star. The frequency of their star is blue. The tall one is Morenae.
That is not his real name but they are a telepathic race and they use
symbols for names, like Mathematics. I knew them. I recognized them. It is
hard to explain how I knew them. We are so much more than just this.
Harris: Did they tell you anything that you could understand?
Collier: Oh! Yes. Basically, they had a program in place ; A message to
re-educate me on who I was, which is one of the first things they did. They
put something on my head which looked like a cap. But it had a hole in the
center like a donut and it fit my head. It was a metallic structure. Morenae
waved his head over something on the table and suddenly all these monitors
appear on the wall out of nowhere. They just weren't there before so they
just materialized and when it was over they disappeared. One of the monitors
was measuring my heartbeat and all my physicality from this one little cap ,
on the right side . It was like it was reading my mind cause I got to see
what I was thinking visually in space. That was very intense!
Collier: It immediately started showing me these scenes. It was like movie
clips. And that I knew almost instinctively that it was past lives. They
wanted me to know who I was and my relationship to them and they were
showing me, and it is already in the brain. It is in that other portion
that we no longer have access to because of DNA alteration.
Harris: I am going to ask you another question because of my research. None
of this is Milab stuff, is it? Phychotronic interference.
Collier: I've been aboard the craft.
Harris: So they showed you this. What did you do?
Collier: They were basically educating me on who I was.
Harris: So are you from Andromeda? Is that what they are telling you.
Collier: That's right. My soul. They used to have an outpost here.
Harris: Ok. Andromeda.
Collier: Your soul wasn't born here either. Nobody's soul was born and hatched
on Earth. Virtually, all of us have come here in some physical form or
another. We have come back or have chosen to be back or twe were killed
here during some kind of upheaval or a war. There have been tons of wars
here. I was very open with my mom for a very short time . After that It
scared her. It scared her big time!
Harris: I'm sure.
Collier: Because of my relationship with them and the time I spent with them, I
was able to hear thoughts. I used to tune into them and scream "stay
away from my head" because I used to hear the thoughts.
Harris: Do you do that now?
Collier: Sometimes. Sometimes .
Harris: O.K.. Were there other encounters?
Collier: Oh, yeah. There were a lot of others They would come over of the
house at night and just take me out of bed.
Harris: There has been a lot of discussion about whether it is a "physical
taking" or an "astral-body taking". If your mom opens the door are you still
there? For instance in the case of Michael Wolf, his parents saw him
disappear and he showed up in the woods.
Collier: It is a physical event. My dad experienced that too. My dad had the
habit of getting up in the middle of the night and getting a little snack.
And one night, as he turned, around and he saw a light in my room. But he
said he saw me about six inches off the bed as I was floating down. There
was a little light like a Christmas light, flicking across the room watching
over me. Then he felt it looked at him as he opened the door then when I
was down on the bed, it looked at me and flew out the window. We talked
about it in the morning and he said" did you see your friends last night? I
said "yes 'and then we never talked about it again.
Harris: Does this still happen? Is there a blue light? Does a dimensional
porthole open? What are the signs?
Collier: There is a beam ,l ike a laser pointer of light blue light that
dematerializes all my atoms. What it does , is separate all my atoms and
molecules so that I can pull through the light. It is light blue. I go up in
the ship and I literally materialize.
Harris: Do you feel good?
Collier: I feel so free. You can't believe it.
Harris: No Physical Problems?
Collier: No , I never had any of that and I don't consider myself an abductee
and I resent that people classify me as an abductee.
Harris: There is a difference between abduction and contact.
Collier: I know that and you know that. I am willingly part of this process.
Harris: If you are not at the intellectual level to accept contact, you will
consider it a violation. It is too bad these experiences get" bad press' Was
there a feeling that you had something to do and you had better do it and
you had agreed to do it before you were born. Are we talking mission here?
Collier: According to the A's we are genetic royalty ,everyone on this planet
and it has nothing to do with where we are on a soul level. people confuse
the two. It is like people don't listen as well as they hear. They say we
are genetic royalty because we the subtotal in our genetics of 22 different
races . Many different races have been here, over millions and millions of
years they have genetically tampered with us and left us and ended up
mating while they were here.
Harris: What does this mean?
Collier: Some of us have chosen to be here at this time because the only way
to make any some real serious change here without direct intervention would
be for some of their kind to come into the physical body and effect change
as part of the race.
Harris: We are not talking "Walk-ins" here, are we?
Harris: At what age did you know all this? Can I ask how old you are?
Collier: What age am I? I'm 44. By the time I was 16, I had all this
information. Everything I had been taught was reality wasn't . At that time,
I was then a hell of a football player and a baseball player. It took a
lot of years for me to figure this out. To be perfectly honest with you , it
wasn't until my son Nicolous was born that I realized what I should do and
what I needed to do and it all fell into place. Now I have an experience, I
have a perspective other than Earth and I'm looking at this planet and I'm
saying " you know what? This is an Asylum. The "inmates "are running this
society. It drives me absolutely nuts and nobody wants to hear it. I have
been talking 11 years now to very small groups because I am a very private
person. That is why I try to keep a very low profile.. Provide the
information and let it have a life of its own, whatever anybody has to do. I
am not here to save the EARTH because I can't. It is not my choice. It is
everybody's individual choice and no one is coming to save us, not Christ
not Krishna. God helps those who help themselves."These things I do , yee
shall do greater if yee have faith".
Harris: Did the beings actually take you to their planet or a ship?
Collier: I was on a ship and I had taken to another ship and I spent three
months with them but in Earth time I was gone 18 minutes because they don't
Harris: Was the ship big?
Collier: They are 900 miles square and located just outside the asteroid belt.
There are different races that they call a consortium who are here ,trying
to figure out how to help us without disempowering us. and that's the
trick. How do we intervene without disempowering these people and without
making them worship us?
Harris: Does this make you very dangerous because of this information.
Collier: They told me to take my site down. I did. I think that the rogue
government is scared, really,really scared. They cut a deal with a
group.They could not trust them but they did anyway. And now they totally
lost control of the situation.
Harris: Who is the group that they cut a deal with?
Collier: It is not just one, it is a consortium as well. Zeta1 and Zeta 1
greys , Sirius -B Humanoids, Lyrans,(Draconian otherwise known as Repilian
races (Regressives negatives ) are from the Orion, group who control some
Zeta 2 Greys, others from Rigel and Capella Systems. It is the Regressives
who have a negative agenda. They are contolling the situation
The Andromedans ,Pleaidians , and Zeta Reticulan Greys are waiting to see
what we do and are generally a positive. races.
Harris: The Greys, a Nordics and...
Collier: the ones on the Planet are genetic modifications. The Nordics are
clones and run by computers. They are not actually living souls. Here is the
thing. The Clones are enough aware that they exist. but they know that when
they die it is over. It is like the movie" Blade runner".
That is why the greys are trying to genetically mix. . According to the
Andromedans ,the third density will eventually implode and will cease to
exist here and much of the third density is going to be raised in frequency
and that which cannot be raised in frequency or chooses not to is
basically going to compress itself, go through a black hole and create
another space in which to continue to evolve. This is the natural
progression. Apparently all this is supposed to happen now and December 30th
Harris: The end of the Mayan Calendar
Collier: Now these other races that are not real and don't have "soul"
realize this is going to happen because they are very scientific but they
can't make this leap because they don't have soul.
Now what is "soul"? The point of the Andromedans is " soul" is
essentially...we are a conductor of light, multidimentionally we are a
conductor of light with total self-awareness. We are light!
Harris: Well do they believe in the collective unconscious or do they
Collier: They refer to it as "is-ness". The Gods that they refer to. The Sons
of God married the daughters of Earth and these would be
extraterrestrial. There is this INTELLIGENCE! We use only 15% of our brain.
matter. That's it! According to the A's we will only understand the Universe
to this level. That's it. Here we are trying to understand something that
is so infinite that we could not possibly deal with it
Here is. What is happening. These races are trying to create "soul" and they
think that if they merge with us and create our physicality , they will
create soul Here's the thing .the reason they are so interested in us on
EARTH , Paola, is that we are GENETIC ROYALTY. Do you understand? That is
why they are forcing us to shift. We have an extreme of emotions. We can
choose to change frequency. We are amazing!!!
******************* This discussion then went into discussing different alien races, Earth
history and advanced technologies and the "why "and "wherefore "of current
UFO sitings , all of which can be found in detail in the book. I suggest to
the reader to decide for him or herself what rings true by reading. the
I , personally have chosen to touch on those points in the book Defending
Sacred Ground that coincide or have been verified by other interviews I have
done in the past.