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A Modern Roman Empire?

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Roman emperors appointed all the high priests recorded within the New Testament from a restricted circle of families who were allied to Rome.

— Joseph Atwill; Caesar's Messiah (quoted by Michael Tsarion) view

Rome attempted not to replace the gods of its provinces but to absorb them. By the end of the first century, Rome had accumulated so many foreign gods that virtually every day of the year celebrated some divinity.

— Joseph Atwill; Caesar's Messiah (quoted by Michael Tsarion) view

The expelled Atonists of Egypt had quickly managed to find new homes in Greece, Syria, Crete, and other countries, so it is not unlikely that they also had many friends in Italy, especially among the patrician families who admired Egypt and who would one day conquer it for themselves. Yes, the Atonists would have coveted the hospitality of the Roman elite. In Rome they would have had access to the men whose empires controlled the world. From there they could commission agents to concoct historical and religious motifs to suit their vision of themselves. We believe Rome was chosen as a new headquarters by Akhenaton's Atonists.

— Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 2 view

Rome attempted not to replace the gods of its provinces but to absorb them. By the end of the first century, Rome had accumulated so many foreign gods that virtually every day of the year celebrated some divinity.

— Joseph Atwill; Caesar's Messiah (quoted by Michael Tsarion) view

Since the building of Constantinople, and the removal of the seat of government to that city, no political quarrel separated Rome from Egypt. Pagan Rome, ever since the union of the two countries under Augustus, except when interrupted by the rebellions, had been eagerly copying the superstitions of Egypt, and Christian Rome still followed the same course.

— Samuel Sharpe; Egyptian Mythology and Egyptian Christianity (quoted by Michael Tsarion) view

The fall of the Roman Empire was not just a matter of changing rulers or political systems. It was the collapse of a whole civilization— the destruction of an economy, the breakdown of law and order, the disappearance of many educational institutions.

— Thomas Sowell; Dismantling America view

History is full of nations and even whole civilizations that have fallen from the heights to destitution and disintegration.

The Roman Empire is a classic example, but the great ancient Chinese dynasties, the Ottoman Empire and many others have met the same fate.

These were not just political "changes." They were historic catastrophes from which whole peoples did not recover for centuries.

It has been estimated that it was a thousand years before Europeans again achieved as high a standard of living as they had in Roman times. The Dark Ages were called dark for a reason.

— Thomas Sowell; Dismantling America view

The Roman governors knew their rule would be undermined by the Druids who traveled all over the country stirring up anti-Roman sentiment and spurring the people to rebel against foreign control. This patriotic anti-colonial stance was one political reason that contributed to the annihilation of the British Druids.

— Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1 view

Rome, as has been said before, made war on the Irish Church established all over Europe, and as she advanced with her armed forces, she took possession of the church property and compelled the people to come under her church dominion or be put to death. By forgeries and lies she has tried to make the world believe that these countries were "converted" by her missionaries

— Conor MacDari; Irish Wisdom Preserved in the Bible and Pyramids (quoted by Michael Tsarion) view

The Irish Church, which was the original Christian Church, was in a struggle for its very life with Rome, and it never surrendered or compromised, hence, the war to the finish; and the false statements, no matter how cunningly invented, cannot alter this fact. Rome has the stolen goods in her possession and she has falsified to the world as to where and how she obtained possession of them

— Conor MacDari; Irish Wisdom Preserved in the Bible and Pyramids (quoted by Michael Tsarion) view

It is almost impossible to point to something in Greek and Roman culture that is <em>original</em>.

— Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1 view

Rome...made war on the Irish Church established all over Europe, and as she advanced with her armed forces, she took possession of the church property and compelled the people to come under her church dominion or be put to death. By forgeries and lies she has tried to make the world believe that these countries were "converted" by her missionaries

— Conor MacDari; Irish Wisdom Preserved in the Bible and Pyramids (quoted by Michael Tsarion) view

To this very day, the nobility of Europe and the East are controlled from London and Rome.

— Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1 view

The Atonist elite knew it was impossible to organize and control a worldwide empire from Britain. The British Isles were geographically too far West for such management. In order to be closer the the "markets," the Atonist corporate giants coveted the city of Rome.

— Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1 view

In short, it was not as much a case of Romans conquering and controlling Britain, as it was of Atonists controlling the world by way of <em>their</em> Rome based empire. In any case, the new rulers of Britain were on excellent terms with the government and religious leaders of pre- and post-Christian Rome The latter were in the employ of the former. This is the conclusion of our personal investigations into the occult roots of Christianity.

— Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1 view

The Romans ruled the British Isles for over 400 years, from 40 to 410 AD. They had more than enough time to obliterate records and crush traditions of great antiquity. The villainous historians under their employ wrote what they were instructed to write, and little of their nonsense does justice to the people they conquered and suppressed. The Romans rank among history's worst desecrators of ancient gnosis. Julius Caesar himself ordered the utter destruction of the great library of Alexandria, that was later burned twice by Christians and Moslems. The student unwittingly seduced into accepting the scurrilously prejudiced and generally unreliable Roman and Saxon compositions as authentic accounts is seriously disadvantaged in his study.

— Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1 view

The Romans who rose to fall into oblivion in a historical instant were not the fathers of civilization any more than the Greeks were.

— Michael Tsarion; The Irish Origins of Civilization, Volume 1 view

In the year 212, Caracalla (Caracallas) passed the Edict of Caracalla, which granted citizenship to all free men in the Roman Empire. His actions caused anger and dismay because, hitherto, citizenship had provided a distinction between Roman-born and foreigners, which was very much prized by the former class. With the extension of citizenship to all and sundry, citizenship was cheapened to the point where it no longer had any value. This is reckoned among historians as one of the main reasons why Rome collapsed just as the United States is in the process of collapsing for the same reason.

— Dr. John Coleman; What You Should Know About the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights view

The experience of the Romans was quite different [than the Byzantines]. Basically a militaristic people, they had little patience for the niceties of monetary restraint. Especially in the later Empire, debasement of the coinage became a deliberate state policy. Every imaginable means for plundering the people was devised. In addition to taxation, coins were clipped, reduced, diluted, and plated. Favored groups were given franchises for state-endorsed monopolies, the origin of our present-day corporation. And amidst constantly rising prices in terms of constantly expanding money, speculation and dishonesty became rampant.

— G. Edward Griffin; The Creature From Jekyll Island view

At this critical juncture [decline of Rome] we move from the age of the Mystery schools to the age of secret societies, from the directing of the course of history by the political elite to something much more subversive coming from below.

— Mark Booth; The Secret History of the World view

We may imagine how absurd life might have seemed to a citizen of the Roman Empire in the days of its decline. He lived in a disenchanted world, where the great spiritual certainties on which the civilizations of the ancient world had been founded seemed doubtful. [...] God and the gods seemed little more than empty, abstract ideas, while the really vigorous thought-life was in the realm of science and technology, in the atomic theories of Lucretius, in amazing engineering projects - aqueducts, drainage systems and roads thousands of miles long - that were springing up all round. Spiritual certainties had been replaced by harsh political and economic realities.

— Mark Booth; The Secret History of the World view

Rome wanted to stamp out doctrinal differences.

— Mark Booth; The Secret History of the World view

When Constantine's nephew Julian came to power in 361, he reversed the tide of religious intolerance. Having been brought up a pupil on the Neoplatonist philosopher Iamblichus, he well understood the mission of the being he called the 'Seven-rayed god'. He gave equal rights to all subjects regardless of their religious beliefs and gave permission for pagan temples to reopen.

[...] He knew enough to know that the mission of the Sun god was under threat, and that the inner mysteries of Manichaeism concerned the secrets of the war between the Sun god and Ahriman - or Satan - the spirit of materialism.

But before he could accomplish his mission, Julian was murdered by a follower of Constantine, and a new Saturnine era began, when knowledge of true, initiatic spirituality would finally be driven underground. The Emperor Theodosius began a ruthless policy of suppressing all disagreement with the imperial line on Christian doctrine. [...] Statues of Isis were rededicated to Mary. [...] This temple to all the gods was converted by Theodosius into a temple of monotheism.

Theodosius closed down the Mystery schools and in 391 besieged the Serapeum in Alexandria.

— Mark Booth; The Secret History of the World view

As we have seen, the Romans made a cult of cruelty. The imposition of power by one man on another, taken to its furthest extremes, was exalted. The Romans were ruthless and ruthlessness was a manly virtue. So the Christian exaltation of meekness and humility turned everything upside down and inside out. [...]

Consider how strange meeting a Christian initiate must have seemed to a Roman.

— Mark Booth; The Secret History of the World view

In this Age of Disenchantment it first became possible to consider that the gods might not exist. Among the intellectual elite, the Epicureans were formulating the first materialistic and atheist philosophies.

— Mark Booth; The Secret History of the World view

The sincere men of Rome, the true initiates, withdrew into yet more shadowy schools that operated independently of the official cult. Stoicism became the outward expression of the initiatic impulse of the age, the growing point of intellectual and spiritual evolution. Cicero and Seneca, both deeply involved with Stoicism, tried to temper the egomania of their political masters. They tried to argue that all men were born brothers and that the slaves should be set free.

— Mark Booth; The Secret History of the World view

By 140 BC Rome was the capital of the world and a vortex of ideas. [...]

When we think of Rome we picture sophistication and grandeur but also paranoia. If we compare the Greece of Pericles with the Rome of the Caesars, we see in the latter the same kind of overbearing pomp, elaborate, awesome rituals of smoke, incense and clashing cymbals that had earlier been used to hypnotize the peoples into obedience to Baal. Now it was used to hypnotize people into believing that various strange and egomaniacal members of the ruling elite were in fact gods.

The Caesars forced the Mystery schools to initiate them. In the process they discovered the ancient initiatic teachings regarding the Sun god.

Julius Caesar eradicated the Druids because of their teaching of the Sun Mysteries - that the Sun god was soon to return to earth. Similarly Augustus banned astrology not because he disbelieved in it, but because he was anxious about what astrologers could see written in the sky. If people could not read the signs of the time, he could perhaps get away with representing <em>himself</em> as the Sun god. Because he had been initiated, Caligula knew how to communicate with the spirits of the moon in his dreams. But because he had gained the initiation by force and without proper preparation, he could not properly identify them.

— Mark Booth; The Secret History of the World view

Rome was exceedingly tolerant religiously. The temples of a score of faiths faced upon the Forum. As long as men paid their taxes and admitted their allegiance, Rome cared but little for private belief, provided that belief threatened no treason to the state.

— Manly P Hall; How to Understand Your Bible view

Rome - never a philosophical empire - dabbled superficially in Greek learning, and then returned to its more congenial tasks of conquest and control.

— Manly P Hall; How to Understand Your Bible view

Generally speaking, however, the Romans failed an extraordinary respect for their social superiors. The nobles, men that is of known and ancient pedigree, were regarded with something like awe. And the Senate, selected by the consuls from among such nobles, experienced little difficulty in getting their own way. The exclusive attitude of these aristocrats, however, led almost from the 1st to very great dissatisfaction among a certain class of the population. Not that these aristocrats were what we ourselves should regard as very refined or cultured folk. Rome, let us repeat, was an agricultural community, even the proudest of her citizens were farmers [...]

Nevertheless in an agricultural community there inevitably arise certain social distinctions. Anyone familiar with the rural life of English villages knows how the old established inheritance look down upon newcomers and what strict distinctions are drawn between the classes. So it was at Rome. Certain families had appropriated to themselves as a hereditary right the privileges of holding public offices. They also claimed a knowledge of the unwritten law, not understood by the vulgar herd. They held the mysterious secrets of the ritual of state religion. And they had even gone so far as to pretend to an almost magical superiority of blood. And these Patrician families, as they were called, refused to inter-marry with the lesser order of Plebeians.

— Cyril Edward Robinson; A History of Rome, Vol 1 view

Marcus Aurelius (The El of Thor) once rebuked the Roman Senate for failing to consult the Sibylline Books of Rome. This was after the time of Christ.

— Henry Binkley Stein; Thirty Thousand Gods Before Jehovah view

Rome was divided into two classes: the patricians or those who could identify their father (patri) and the plebs or bastards who could not. The Patricians were of the Illi blood as they always paid much attention to their genealogies. The plebs (a backward spelling of the word people) were a mixed lot carrying some of the Illi blood and a lot of the aboriginal. The institution of marriage threw the line of inheritance tot he male where it has been ever since.

— Henry Binkley Stein; Thirty Thousand Gods Before Jehovah view

Rome was virtually founded after the fall of Troy and many gods may have migrated there. There was a dark age about 1000 B.C., just like the one after Charlemagne about 1000 A.D.

— Henry Binkley Stein; Thirty Thousand Gods Before Jehovah view

By the fourth century, one half of the lands and one fourth of the population of the Roman Empire were owned by the priests. When the Emperor Constantine and his Senate formally adopted Christianity as the Empire’s official religion, the exercise was more of a merger or acquisition than a revolution. The wealth of the priests merely became the immediate possession of the Christian churches, and the priests merely declared themselves Christians. Government continued without interruption. The pagan gods and goddesses were artfully outfitted with names appropriate to Christianity.

— Tupper Saussy; Rulers of Evil view

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