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What They Didn't Teach You In School
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36 weeks 1 day ago, 3:42 PM
Sarah |
THE DISCERNMENT Although words seldom lift veils, it is my hope through this discernment that somebody somewhere will understand my words and escape this deception that has come upon us as a snare. We're all responsible for what we believe, and you can't always believe what you see, because in this case; things are not as they appear, and they appear as they are not! I always felt different. I wasn't satisfied with the churches explanation of truth. If God went to church I didn't see him there. Faith wasn't logical to me. I figured man invented God in his own image to give purpose to his otherwise meaningless life. I didn't want a meaningless life. I knew that somewhere, out there, the Truth was buried, and I was going to find it. And I did.............. I decided to study the occult. I felt like Alice in Wonderland. I began to read books on Astrology and Numerology it wasn't long before I was using the knowledge I'd learned to win horse races. From there I studied palmistry and the Tarot. Witchcraft came later. One evening as my friends and I were sitting on a hillside smoking a joint, (well it was 1973 what did you expect)? Marsha pointed to what I thought was a star. But this star moved, at first slowly and then in a blink of an eye it was gone. She explained that her cousin had previously pointed out a UFO to her and now she sees them all the time, wasn't long before I did too. I was hooked, something wonderful was happening and I was part of it. Having friends in high places was cool. It wasn't long before Marsha and I became a couple of space troopers. Knowing well that the ships would appear, we would take unsuspecting friends to desolate places in the middle of the night just to watch their faces when they saw the UFO. Some liked it, some didn't. One evening as we sat at a power plant, a huge silent glowing red ship hovered above us. Twinnie, (one of Marsha's friends) got out of the car and ran off. We found her later, still running down the road and took her home. That was the last time she partied with us! It wasn't long before I found out what goes around comes around. Some of my grateful friends decided to return the favor and asked me if I'd like to party with a ghost. They took me to sharp bend in the road and parked the car. I soon felt a presence in the car with us, my flesh felt like it was coming off my bones and the hair on my arms stood on end. Richie said "he's here." I don't know why, but a few nights later we went back. This time the spirit came into the car, passed through my body and looked out of my eyes, all while my flesh was coming off my bones and my hair standing on end. I remember thinking, be calm don't let it know your scared. after about a minute it left. God, that was horrible. I was glad to get home that evening, I decided I wasn't going back there anymore. It was late, I decided to go to bed. I closed my eyes and thought about what had happened. I began hearing breathing at first faintly but then it got louder and louder, I reached for a picture of Christ that was on my dresser, just as I grabbed it a bottle which was beside the picture hurled at my face and struck me in the forehead. I saw stars. The breathing stopped and I went to sleep. The next day I had a perfect black and blue circle in the middle of my forehead. While I was in the library I came across a book on witchcraft. Spells were explained along with strange formulas for potions. I learned that to cast a spell all I had to do was call upon the name of a demon and tell him what I wanted. One evening I went with Marsha to driving school. ( she had a point problem along with others) I sat in the back of the room. I decided to test the witchcraft, I said to the demon "if this thing is real make that guy in the front seat twitch" Well he about fell on the floor. At that point it was pretty clear to me that I was dealing with a lot more than I could, or should have been. I never tried to cast another spell. But I did start to think about God, Because if Satan existed than he obviously did also. Of all the times Marsha and I had encounters with UFOs I never suspected that anything happened to us other than what we remembered. Sure there were a lot of nights that we got home a lot later than we had planned, but you know when you don't have to be anywhere at any particular time you don't wonder where the time went, besides everyone knows time flies when you're having fun. To this day, I couldn't say for sure if we ever had contact with anyone, or were abducted. Not together anyway, I was alone the night the ships landed. ........ One evening I was bored so I decided to hitch a ride to my friend Marys' house, but when I arrived, no one was home. I figured it better to wait for her than to try to hitch a ride back home. I sat down on a lawn chair with Mary's dog Corky. I loved Mary's house. It sat alone, on a hill, in the country, and the peace was wonderful there. Dusk was just settling in. As I sat there I saw a ship silently land about 75 feet in the field in front of me. This was the first time I'd ever seen one on the ground. "I thought this doesn't look right" This thing looked like it came from somewhere a lot closer than outer space. It was shaped similar to a top but the bottom flared out. From what I can remember it was probably 15 or so feet wide by not much more than that high. It was a rusty color the color of weathered steel. I could see a railing around the center of the craft and it appeared to be sitting on a tripod which elevated it from the ground. Across the center of the ship was writing I was not able to read. It reminded me of Greek. I think I recall a backward small "e" and an "o" with a line through it. Many more letters, ones I cannot type. I remember thinking again this doesn't look right. What was a ship from another planet doing with an inscription that looks Greek on it? It was at that point that I could hear the weeds moving towards me. I knew I was being approached but saw nothing. I thought the dog would have sensed trouble but he didn't. At this point I think I walked up to a tall rather handsome man in a tan jumpsuit type uniform. I remember reading a tag which was sewn to either his arm or over a pocket, I think there was a Red Snake. Whatever I read, I remember again thinking this doesn't look right. What is someone from the Government doing in a UFO? The next thing I remember is standing back in the original position I first saw the ship land. I noticed that to my right was another identical ship, which didn't land with the first one. I remember feeling sorry that they were leaving. I was sad because I wanted to go with them. I was told that I was one of them, and that I was to help people to understand who they were, and to help others accept them. (even though I don't remember speaking to anyone). I watched as the first ship lifted off. As it ascended I could see what I thought must have been the power source. Three large red glowing circles one of which seemed to be sputtering as if it had difficulty. Again I thought, this whole thing just doesn't seem right. I decided that maybe these were probe ships. As I watched the ship rise I said "bye" and for the first and only time, I heard a noise that went ""BLEEP""" as if saying good-bye. Then as I watched, the two ships simultaneously flew side by side to form two brightly lit triangles. They danced in circular motions around one another until the triangles became one. And again I thought what are they doing? This just doesn't look right. As they circled one another the most beautiful display of rainbow colors were flowing from them and circling them. They then flew off together. Not more than a minute later my friend returned home. She was surprised to see me in her back yard. I tried to explain to her that I had been entertaining UFO's, but she thought I was high. I wasn't, besides there where times when I was, but I never saw anything like that! All I could do was think of them, in the weeks that followed I began writing in journals. I was always a daydreamer, but it seemed that I had taken my daydreams to a new level. I would draw geometric forms and become lost within them. (Mandala's) I didn't understand then, but as I was spacing out in my art work I was being versed in what was to become new age philosophy. My mind was in communication with them, we were somehow telepathically linked. I drew pictures of aliens, and ships and other worlds. My journals were filled with philosophical questions and answers about why we were here and what our purpose was. I became very knowledgeable about a lot of things I knew nothing about. I became very aware of myself as I began to examine what I believed the Truth to be. I felt special. My friends were amazed when I'd show them the ships. Amazed that they followed me and appeared when I chose to be with them. At that time 1974, very little was known about UFO's and as I said, if we were missing time than we figured it was because we just lost track of it. None of us ever suspected that anything happened to us that we didn't remember, Why would we? Three years is a long time to have a relationship with UFO's. As far as I know I was never treated badly. I don't recall ever being forced to do anything against my will. I do know that just because I don't remember, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. I believe the purpose of our relationship was to teach me about them, so that I would bring others to them. And I did, I brought many others. It was 1974 I graduated from high school and moved away. I never did see Marsha again. I made new friends, some of which I showed the ships to. I soon met Connie, she was married and had a 10 year old daughter. Connie and I would drive around at night and eventually stop at a secluded area and wait. We did this a lot. I remember one evening we sat watching a UFO from her car. We then returned to her house. We'd left her daughter there with Connie's husband, and my boyfriend. When we walked through the door we were met by two angry guys. They wanted to know why we were gone so long, and exactly what were we doing? We laughed it off, I don't even think we looked to see what the time was. We thought they were mad because we left them. I never gave it another thought. Maybe I should have. Connie began seeing the UFO's when we weren't together. She claimed that one evening she saw a woman looking out of a porthole as a UFO hovered above her car. Claims she left her car and ran. Her husband wasn't too happy, he had to walk to get the car she'd left still running in the middle of the road. He didn't believe in UFO's and he was beginning to believe we had some severe mental problems. One evening as Connie, her daughter Janise, and I sat watching TV I said, "Let's go out in the yard I think they're here." Connie said "No" but her daughter said "I'll go." Connie lived in the country in a fairly secluded area. We walked to the end of her yard to a field, and I was right, the ship was above us. We watched as it brightly glowed and hovered silently. All of a sudden we heard the roaring of a helicopter approaching very quickly. As it came upon us the UFO glided away. I pulled Janise down so that we were hidden in the weeds. The helicopter hovered above us and shined a search light close to where we were hiding, and then shot off after the ship. I remember wondering who could have been flying the helicopter? I was glad they didn't see us. They knew what they were looking for. I believe everything happens for a reason, and for that reason it was very good that I met Diana. Diana was a Christian, she asked me to go to church with her one evening and I accepted. It was a peculiar place, not like the church I'd grown up with. These people were different somehow. It felt good there, peaceful. After the service I began speaking to a woman who was walking beside me as we left the church. Diana and I told her about the UFO's. She stopped walking and said "That's Satan, its a deception." At first I didn't want to believe her, but I found myself realizing over the next few days that I'd been used. How stupid I was, I never saw it coming. I just didn't see that my friends in high places were carrying out an agenda to destroy me. For the first time I was seeing clearly or trying to. I began reading the Bible. I didn't know what I was looking for, but I did know that I was looking in the right place. One evening as I was watching TV I saw a ship in the distance coming towards my house. I walked over to the window and as I stared at it I said "I know who you are Satan." The ship flashed a blinding light in my eyes and left. That was the last I ever saw of them, they've never returned. Fifteen years went by. One day as I walked past my book shelf Erich Von Daniken's book "The Gold of The Gods" caught my eye. I stopped dead and said "Oh my God, I know what you're doing." The revelation floored me. Satan was going to land UFO's on Earth disguised as aliens from space, Aliens who would claim responsibility for genetically engineering life on Earth. I was shocked, It all hit me out of the blue! At the time I didn't really understand his full agenda, but I knew the plan. Probably knew it all along. For the next ten years I spent a lot of time reading the bible and anything that I could find about alien abduction and the New Age Movement. I knew exactly where the Movement was coming from. After all I used to be one of them. All the pieces soon fell into place. It was all such a perfect plan. I had to wonder, where I'd have been today if I hadn't seen the Truth. A New Age Leader, hanging out with Sheldon Nidle and the rest of Satan's puppets? They had big plans for me, but I guess God had some bigger ones. I found all too soon that just because I knew the Truth didn't mean anybody would believe me. After all, people have a hard enough time accepting Satan exists. Tell them he pilots UFO's, and you're left talking to yourself. I've watched for years as we've become conditioned to accept them. Even today I see more and more religions becoming infiltrated by New Age beliefs. Why not, If you don't know what you believe then anything looks good. Christians don't give their faith the consideration they do to buying a car. Religion's going down because they never knew Christ. They worshiped a synthetic one, but not the real one. And now they'll reap the rotten fruit they've sewn. I know a lot of you believe you're leaving here, that you'll be raptured before things get really bad. I don't think that's true. I'm afraid that when Jesus doesn't show up, the deception will become the truth, and the falling away will be complete. If the rapture was Gods plan, than I'd expect he owes a lot of Christian martyrs a very big apology. Besides, if we Christians are taken away, what would be the standard by which the Truth could be known? How could the remaining lost be found? What purpose could the tribulation accomplish if it were not to save the remnant? The God I know has a reason. He isn't amused by torturing souls, it's just not his nature. He is willing to turn us inside out though, if it means we'll ultimately accept the Truth and return to him. What do you think people will believe when Satan's legion of demons disguised as aliens from space land on our planet claiming to be responsible for genetically engineering life? You have to admit that the Sons of God who cohabited with the daughters of men left some pretty impressive artifacts that have left scientists scratching their heads. Artifacts purposely planted to furnish credibility. Can you think of a better plan to deceive than presenting to us what we cannot dispute with our own eyes? What will we say when they present the new race of human hybrids they've created from all that stolen abductee seed? Not only will these hybrids have super human abilities, but they will also provide a physical vehicle which the demonic entities may enter to secure their existence in this dimension. The New Age movement is calling for their Master to arrive. Through his guidance the New Age will become reality. It will be claimed that man lost the knowledge of his divinity, that God the Father was the product our of misinterpretation. A lie, which prevented our true awareness. It will be claimed that through christ consciousness, (a new thought process) we will acquire the physical ability to pass through other dimensions and eventually become Masters. God the Father will be dead, and we'll become the masters of our own destiny. What more could man ask for? Nobodies going to consider the fact that Satan just sat down at the throne and became the God he claimed he'd be. Satan Who? Satan has twisted scripture to fit perfectly with his agenda. The scriptures will be used against us. The distorted word will become a huge stumbling block. If you don't already know the Truth, the lie is going to become the new truth. The religion of Mystery Babylon will be born, or should I say reincarnated? Satan has defiantly done his homework, he's deceived us up one side and down the other. He really gave Catholicism the snow job. Why not? They're a big reason we're in this mess. The Roman Catholic Church became the founding father of Christianity when Constantine conquered Rome and established a Christian empire. Christianity soon became a religion of Pagan influence. This influence is not only evident through the worshiping of Mary, but also in every custom indicative to Christian festivals. I'm not going to expound, but if Arianism is the Truth, (That Jesus id not God Almighty) then Christians have a lot of explaining to do. When Christianity and Roman Paganism united we got into bed with Satan, and now we have to sleep with him. The Christian martyrs of that time protested to the changes in doctrine which were decreed at the Nicaea Council, but their protests were denied, and they were either exiled or killed. True Christianity became obsolete. Today America sits upon the whore of Babylon without a clue. Our first clue should have been that any doctrine Catholicism had any deciding factor upon what so ever must be flawed. To assume that Christian doctrine is 100% accurate is a wrong assumption. If you don't question every word you believe then somewhere along the line you'll be deceived. Do a word search on Hell sometime, you may be surprised by what you'll find. The Christians that remain true to their faith after the aliens arrival will become scapegoats, and the religion will fail for lack of substantiation. Most Christians will have lost their faith, those still adhering to the faith will be persecuted. Failure to submit to the new way will cost the lives of many. The Tribulation will be blamed by our non acceptance of their truth. It will be claimed our negative vibratory rate is responsible for the delay in the arrival of the New Age. We'll even be labeled the "Antichrist." We'll be hated for Christ's name sake, but those who endure until the end will be saved. This is certainly not a pretty picture, and I wish I could say it's all a joke, but I can't, Because it's not. I understand why people walk away from the Truth, it's a startling revelation that few can bare to acknowledge. Whether we acknowledge the Truth or not, isn't going to prevent these things from happening, and our delay in understanding, places us in a very vulnerable position. God gave us the free will to believe whatever we choose. If we choose to believe a lie than we'll reap the consequences of that lie. Everything that is hidden will be brought to light. It's time to get our armor out of the closet, and start shining up our swords. |
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Thank you very much for sharing, that is a very interesting story. I would have to agree with you on a lot of points, however, there is still one thing I would like to get your opinion on.
What is your thought on people who have had near death experiences? Most of them say that it doesn't really matter what religion you are or what path you take. The important thing is that you grow selflessly and love others.
Sarah
Hi, You said
"What is your thought on people who have had near death experiences? Most of them say that it doesn't really matter what religion you are or what path you take. The important thing is that you grow selflessly and love others."
I just wrote a very detailed blog on the spirit, I'll post it here for you to read. I see my Secret Witchcraft didn't come out too well, too big.....Anyway, because human beings do not have a spirit of their own, but are subjected to the influence of good and evil spirits we have to understand how to test these spirits to understand what's influencing us.
We do not leave our bodies when "given" near death experiences but we're given guided imagery by SPIRITS which we perceive in our brains, We see events as if they are actually happening but they aren't happening in "real" time. Another example of this situation is when people are abducted from their sleep by aliens. There are reports by people they are sleeping with who were awake at the time and said these people never left their side, they even note that their partners were acting out bad dreams and could not be awakened.
Also people who practice astral projection are not flying but are being influenced with visions of flight. We have the same situation in near death experiences, Hell does not exist at this stage and when a person dies they go directly to a sleep state in the grave and await the resurrection. Otherwise why would there be a resurrection? All experiences given to us by Satan are meant to deceive us and to keep us from knowing the truth about God. It's as simple as that. It doesn't matter how "nice" you are, nice doesn't keep you from being deceived. Of coarse it's good to be a loving person but at the end of the day if you're deceived, you're deceived. The Holy Spirit tries to direct everyone, but if you don't listen to it then you're on your own.
People are very confused about the Truth. It isn't any wonder,,,,,,,,,,, Religion has been contaminated. The Bibles been compromised by scribes who've changed scripture to suit their beliefs. Christians worship Jesus as God the Father. Are they crazy? Have they even read their Bibles? I think the requirements for a belief should be IS IT BELIEVABLE???
So we're basically all screwed, We're faced with religions who don't know God and New Agers who want to be god and agnostics who are skeptical about everything. And ironically being skeptical is actually the first step to finding the Truth. The key is believe nothing unless you know it's the Truth. I don't operate on faith,,,,, I have Certainty.
Genio
I agree with some of the things you say but i also disagree ..
for one thing i dont believe in good and evil
i dont believe in the "devil" but i do believe in God
i think what people call good and evil, is nothing more than ego and self
the ying and yang, our left and right side of our brain
there is basically two people living within each body and most people dont know this so they have no control over their ego or self
i believe we all have a soul, i like to think of ourselves as a driver inside a vehicle
our body is the vehicle , our brain is the engine, and our soul is the driver
we make choices everyday based on either ego or self .. both sides of our brain have completely different functions they are complete opposites .
i like to think of the self as the angel inside us who does things sincerely and with good intentions for everyone, and the ego is like a little demon thats always trying to be better than the angel, making choices that are for selfish intentions.
this is like what you said about good and evil spirit that influence us but its actually inside us. we all have the power to do good and we all have the power to do bad it all depends on what we choose
Like you said christianity has been corrupted over time .. so how are we supposed to know the "truth" ? how do we know which religion is the right one ? i think the answer to that is to look inside yourself .. grow from within . believe what YOU believe is the truth and then you can take in other information .
So .. im curious to know what the christian perspective would on what happens after we die.
The one reason why i could not agree with christianity is because i believe 100% in reincarnation . it would not make sense to me that there is a place where souls burn for eternity . i asked myself what happens to the soul once the body dies ? is there a reward for living a good honest life, is there a punishment for hurting others for selfish desires ? i think yes. there is. its called karma. im not sure exactly what happens when we die . i dont think anyone really knows. but it would make more sense to me that we come back home to earth, with good or bad karma. some people are more fortunate than others when it comes to health or living conditions, and i think this is a result of karma either from a past life or from the present one
what do you think ?
Sarah
Hi, thanks for thinking,,,, you wrote;
I agree with some of the things you say but i also disagree ..
for one thing i dont believe in good and evil
.....Really??
i dont believe in the "devil" but i do believe in God
....This is unfortunate for you. God created the devil to execute his will, he uses him. He's very real. Obviously you've had no experiences with the occult. I would say don't try this at home but investigating the paranormal is how I found the Truth. I would be an atheist otherwise.
i think what people call good and evil, is nothing more than ego and self
the ying and yang, our left and right side of our brain
...........No.
there is basically two people living within each body and most people dont know this so they have no control over their ego or self
.........You are a human being. God created you to do his will. Many are called few are chosen, probably because there's just too much deception to weed through. It's a hell of a lot easier to believe nothing. The reason you believe there's a duel nature in your brain is because there is. There's a constant battle going on in there. You're bombarded with temptation all day long, Even at night we're tormented. We have to decide which spirit we'll believe. If we follow the Holy Spirit it will guide us in all truth, and yes you'll still sin, we're human, but you'll know you're sinning. Sounds like you've accepted the New Age reasoning behind ego. That's bullshit.
i believe we all have a soul, i like to think of ourselves as a driver inside a vehicle
.....Yes, that's it. Most of us can't find our keys though.
our body is the vehicle , our brain is the engine, and our soul is the driver
........Our body is our soul, or it houses it, anyway we were formed from the dust and then animated by the breath of life. or spirit of life. Although we aren't spirit beings because spirits have no flesh.
we make choices everyday based on either ego or self .. both sides of our brain have completely different functions they are complete opposites .
..........Well, as I said that's the new age spiel. They know there's a duality there they just don't want to call it what it is,,, because after all they're trying to make a split between themselves and religion, As they should, because religion is evil, it doesn't know God, unfortunately by disassociating themselves with religion instead of looking into what's wrong with it they've put themselves in the same deceived position.
i like to think of the self as the angel inside us who does things sincerely and with good intentions for everyone, and the ego is like a little demon that's always trying to be better than the angel, making choices that are for selfish intentions.
.............So then what are you? The ego is the "you" inside you. It is nothing more than your desires which can be good or bad. The angel you speak of is the Holy Spirit you should take direction from. The Spirit of the world, or the anti-christ,,, is the one you don't want to follow. The Bible though not infallible has a good bit to say about what we should and shouldn't believe. It's the schematic for testing the spirits.
This isn't rocket science, it's easy. There's good there's bad. There's right there's wrong.
this is like what you said about good and evil spirit that influence us but its actually inside us. we all have the power to do good and we all have the power to do bad it all depends on what we choose
......Right, but inevitably we choose what we believe, nobody makes us do or believe anything. We can be co horsed but that's our fault. If we accept lies for truth then we have to eat it.
Like you said christianity has been corrupted over time .. so how are we supposed to know the "truth" ? how do we know which religion is the right one ?
......There is none they're all lies. Sure there's truth here and there but not one church teaches pure truth. So you're on your own, you and if you choose right, the Holy Spirit. It's all a matter of choice. The Word of God which Jesus confirmed to us is the tester of the spirits. If you understand you can free yourself from the lies meant to deceive you.
i think the answer to that is to look inside yourself .. grow from within . believe what YOU believe is the truth and then you can take in other information .
...It's very easy to think you believe the Truth, your perception is your perception. But do you really believe the Truth? You cannot find the Truth with your own intellect, you must have guidance. Yeah, I know, nobody wants to be subordinate, but get used to it. We're stupid insignificant human beings. We have no idea what’s going on. We're subjected to being bombarded by the wiles of the devil day in and day out. We're just no match. Without the guidance of the Holy spirit we are truly lost.
So .. im curious to know what the Christian perspective would on what happens after we die.
............The truth (ironically) about this situation is not taught by Christianity. Christianity adopted pagan beliefs in the 3rd century and that was the beginning of it's association with Jesus. I've done a lot of research on this which I will post if you like. When you die, the Holy Spirit as well as unclean spirits leave your body. You go into a deep sleep, you awaken at the resurrection. Think about it,, why would everybody in heaven or hell have to come back to their graves so they could get back into heaven or hell? There's tons of scripture supporting this (soul sleep) but Christians don't want to hear it.
Much of the Old Testament does not express a belief in a personal afterlife of reward or punishment:
"All the dead go down to Sheol, and there they lie in sleep together-whether good or evil, rich or poor, slave or free (Job 3:11-19). It is described as a region "dark and deep," "the Pit," and "the land of forgetfulness," cut off from both God and human life above (Pss. 6:5; 88:3-12). Though in some texts Yahweh's power can reach down to Sheol (Ps. 139:8), the dominant idea is that the dead are abandoned forever. This idea of Sheol is negative in contrast to the world of life and light above, but there is no idea of judgment or of reward and punishment."[22]
Later Old Testament writings, particularly the works of the Hebrew prophets, describe a final resurrection of the dead, often accompanied by spiritual rewards and punishments:
"Many who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake. Some shall live forever; others shall be in everlasting contempt. But the wise shall shine brightly like the splendor of the firmament, and those who lead the many to justice shall be like the stars forever" (Daniel 12:2).
However, even here, the emphasis is not on an immediate afterlife in heaven or hell, but rather on a future bodily resurrection.
The one reason why i could not agree with Christianity is because i believe 100% in reincarnation . it would not make sense to me that there is a place where souls burn for eternity
...Well you're wrong about the reincarnation, but you're almost right about the heaven and hell situation. God is not going to burn people for eternity, that's a Greco Roman pagan belief. He will destroy what he can't use though.
. i asked myself what happens to the soul once the body dies ? is there a reward for living a good honest life, is there a punishment for hurting others for selfish desires ? i think yes. there is. its called karma. im not sure exactly what happens when we die
,,,,,,,,Karma is Satans excuse for what you don't understand. He has a lot of excuses for what RELIGION HAS FALLEN SHORT ON. I'm sure you never thought that Religion was so contaminated or that there was really a God outside religion. Most people don't se this so they wonder away from God. That's a mistake.
. i dont think anyone really knows. but it would make more sense to me that we come back home to earth, with good or bad karma. some people are more fortunate than others when it comes to health or living conditions, and i think this is a result of karma either from a past life or from the present one
....That's a lie. As I said it's a substitute lie for the Truth. We all live one time, we have to study the Word so we can discern the Truth from the Lie. I guess Eve did this to us by eating the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil. When she did she led us down a very slippery slope. We have to save ourselves by finding the Truth.. The best way to find it is by understanding the LIE. And don't let Satan throw in your face everything you ever did wrong and that you can never be good enough. THAT'S Just one more of his lies to keep you down. We're all sinners, we're bound to sin sooner or later. The trick is getting your beliefs straight. The last time he told me I was a sinner I said ""yeah, well if I'm going to burn I'm going in right behind you""..................... He doesn't say much anymore.
I hope something I said can help you. At any rate, consider my words................ Sarah
Genio
Thats really interesting stuff
im glad you know what your talking about
there is alot of lies out there and the truth is so hard to find
but im still uncertain about one thing
us living only one life...
i really doubt that one lifetime would be enough to find the 'truth'
theres so much to learn and so much is hidden from us that the average person doesnt bother to find it.
what happens to all the souls that are lost today , and all the souls that were lost in the past.
what about the souls who never got to reach adulthood or even their teenage years
do they not deserve another chance ?
i think god made it so that we keep trying and trying until finally we find what it is that we are supposed to find
Genio
I can see that you know what your talking about
i think we both understand the two dualities but we were taught two different ways to look at the same thing .
what you say makes sense and everything but i still cant agree that people only live on life
The truth is so well hidden that even though its not that complicated people cant find it
their is so many lost souls living today and so many lost souls that lived in the past
i dont believe that god would not give them another chance
what about the souls that died so young that they had no chance to seek the truth ? what happens to the people that died without ever hearing about christianity
and what about the animals ?
dont they have souls aswell ?
i think every living thing has a soul and our soul is eternal . our soul lives on and on and on until we reach that goal that we are supposed to reach and we ascend into a higher dimension . because there is many dimensions or densities out there and there is souls living in all of them
i think ..... lol =)
Sarah
Hi. You wrote;
I can see that you know what your talking about
........I have to, How could I have the experiences I've had and not be firmly grounded? I appreciate your willingness to understand something you don't believe. I do this all the time. It's imperative to understand what you don't believe. it reinforces what you do believe. Christians hate me because I tell them the Truth, this alone reinforces my beliefs.
i think we both understand the two dualities but we were taught two different ways to look at the same thing .
..........I wasn't taught by man, I was guided by the Spirit. The Spirit revealed the truth to me. It taught me about the discrepancies of Christianity and the unfounded beliefs of the New Age. It also isn't a coincidence that N.A. teachings are all grounded in the occult. That should give you cause for concern. Doesn't it bother you that the possibility exists that you're being deceived? I won't allow that. I can't
what you say makes sense and everything i still cant agree that people only live one life
........There again, what is the basis for your belief? Mans word.''''''''' Man cannot be trusted. Everything that I see has been prophesized. Look around, the new world order is materializing,,,,, that's prophesized...... I will be hated for "his names sake" (and I am hated, by my own kind as well as yours)..... that's prophesized....... The New age movement teaches a new gospel.,,,,,,, that's prophesized,,,,,,,, and the deal breaker,,,,,Satan wants to sit upon the throne and show himself as god, that's prophesized,,,,,, and very soon Aliens which are actually demonic beings are going to come to our planet and proclaim to have genetically engineered mankind. This will be the end of all religions, but not my form of Christianity. I will remain while the rest "fall away" And you said (("i still cant agree that people only live one life")) Yes, Satan told that to Eve also "You surely won't die" Do you see the connection? You have a shot here, you have an ear and the Spirit is trying to reach you, Anybody home?????? Maybe you'll understand when you see these things happen. You won't be able to deny that I told you these things.
The truth is so well hidden that even though its not that complicated people cant find it
......Yes it's hidden, and that was by design. Satan doesn't want us to know the Truth because then we have power over him. It's actually very predictable. He wants to sit on the Throne and he'll stop at nothing to get there.
their is so many lost souls living today and so many lost souls that lived in the past
.........Yes there are.
i dont believe that god would not give them another chance
......He does "All knees will bend to me"
what about the souls that died so young that they had no chance to seek the truth ? what happens to the people that died without ever hearing about christianity
......They're saved, we're all saved. The bad is burnt out in the end and the good remains. Christians don't even understand their own religion. They teach lies. Remember when Jesus said in Mat. 7:22,23
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
and what about the animals ?
dont they have souls aswell ?
...........Yes they do........... and I'm sure God loves them as well, what happens to them is the same thing that happens to us. "all go down to the dust". Does he resurrect them??,,,,,, Probably...... because scripture says that in paradise the lion will lay down with the lamb. Either that or he makes new ones.
.i think every living thing has a soul and our soul is eternal . our soul lives on and on and on until we reach that goal that we are supposed to reach and we ascend into a higher dimension
.......But what or who determines this to be so? Who decides who is good enough to proceed to the next dimension? This is a lie...........................
. because there is many dimensions or densities out there and there is souls living in all of them.
i think ..... lol =)
..........Human beings can only exist in this dimension. When we die we must wait for God to "change us into spirit beings. Spirit beings have no bodies. Anyone who believes that they will ascend to another dimension without the aid of God is mistaken. Show me a human being who can say they do this. You can't because they can't do it....Sure, Satan will produce plenty of formless ascended channeled beings but they're demons playing a part. They do it very well, but they don't fool me. I had one of these evil spirits come into my body and look out of my eyes. Scared the shit out of me. It didn't take me long to figure out what was happening to me. I am free now, I have peace which surpases the imagination. Life is good.......................... Sarah
ordeal
so where is god in the 3rd world why is it that we are all baced off of some forme of money its all CONTORL we just happen to be sitting blinded as sheep and so meany poeple say they know the truth (selfmadeprophecies)its not hard to do give me a 5th of jack and spell check (witch i need most of the time lol) and i will be able to come up with some thing.....
Genio
sorry i took forever
ok so i read everything you said and it all makes sense, like the things you said would happen i knew about them and i am sepereate from materialism , its impressive how a book so old has this information.
the only thing is that when i picture god and satan i dont picture a man and i dont picture a demon i think of it as two forces that are everything and they are always contradicting each other they are complete opposites . they are real but not only to humans to all life forms on this universe . thats why there is aliens out there that are bad and have only their interests and there are alien that are good and they try to keep peace .
we have humans trying to control the world and we have humans who only want peace . its all around us in everything we see
satan is inside us through our ego and god is inside us through the self
the ego forms a fake reality that always tries to be better and would do anything to be better than the self like you said
..Yes it's hidden, and that was by design. Satan doesn't want us to know the Truth because then we have power over him. It's actually very predictable. He wants to sit on the Throne and he'll stop at nothing to get there
once we die our soul is either on the self side, the ego side, or neither
paradise , hell or reencarnation thats just what i think these kind of things just pop into my head i dont know if they are right to other people but to me it seems like a possibility
i think wether your christian or hindu as long as you understand theres two sides and you choose to be on the one that deep down you know is right you will do fine and you will be rewarded in the end .